AM Radio Gold Rewind: 1977
Speaker 1 0:00
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Kristin Nilsen 0:08
Welcome back to this encore presentation. What encore thing. Welcome to this encore thing of, again radio gold 1977. This is one of my favorite episodes of all time. It is a rundown of some of our favorite songs from the year 1977. And that dovetails perfectly with what the three of us are doing right now. Because when we are doing the Encore thingy, whatever that's called rebroadcasting when we're encore encore we're doing on course. That's the time when we are planning and researching and recording our episodes for the next season. And what we are doing right now coincidentally, has very much to do with the music of 1977. One of the episodes that we're working on right now is a tribute to Andy Gibb. And this is something that's a long time coming. There have been a lot of requests for it and the the three years that we've been doing this podcast, this is something that people feel very strongly about, and we're finally going to bring it to you. And
Michelle Newman 1:11
it's going to be a 15 parter. I think it might be when you said Kristen, when you put Kristen who longtime listeners know used to fantasize about running down the beach or just walking around an apartment in a bathrobe with Andy Gibb, you get you get a 15 part episode. That's truly magnificent.
Carolyn Cochrane 1:32
Oh, we hear 15 parts him justice. I think in all the research that I've been doing, I texted Kristen the other day and I said, I think I'm developing a crush on Andy Gibb. Can you do that? How do I say that post you post
Kristin Nilsen 1:47
to post puberty poet
Michelle Newman 1:49
notes like posthumously question that's right.
Kristin Nilsen 1:53
To mostly your emphasis. Yeah, I'm
Carolyn Cochrane 1:56
just I My sister was was the fan. And so I'm kind of I feel like I'm experiencing him for the first time in a way beyond just the songs that I knew back in the 70s. And boy, I tell you what a cutie patootie I am enjoying every minute. Thank goodness for YouTube. You can kind of experience it. Yeah, yeah,
Michelle Newman 2:20
I I'm with you. And you'll hear me say this when we actually record the ending of episode but same Carolyn, it was my sister's crush. So and I've always loved loved Andy Gibb. But I think I'm appreciating him and it's on a totally different level. Now, at age 54. It was kind of funny. I, you know, listeners, we also have an episode coming up on Charlie's Angels next season this coming season. And so I asked my husband last night, I said, Tomorrow night, I need to either watch some Charlie's Angels, or like because you know this, this is hard work. I got to work tomorrow night. Yeah, we're committed. I either need to watch about three episodes of Charlie's Angels or an Andy Gibb behind the music and maybe, you know, a good handful of, you know, performances. Which would you like to watch with me? I thought for sure his say Charlie's Angels, and he would like to watch and again, Oh, you're kidding me? Wow. I appreciate his music and his songs. And he also loves you remember back Wait, oh my gosh, was it like, the first two weeks of this week? That Beegees documentary came out? Yeah. Kristin watched it and called us all like an emergency call in the middle of the night meeting, basically, like, you guys need to watch this tomorrow. And we have to record an episode. And we did. And yeah, we my husband. And I watched that together. And we loved it. So. So yeah, we're we're enjoying.
Kristin Nilsen 3:42
It's very, it's interesting, because this is something that people feel very personally about. They feel very strongly about it. And His birthday was just this week, just a couple of days ago, actually. And I'm actually I'm so stunned at all of the love that comes out on March 5, for this man who has been dead for 35 years. 35 years, yeah, over 36 years, something crazy like that, including yesterday. And I think she does this a yearly and Victoria principle posted throwing some roses into the ocean, which she does every year on March. This is a man who she broke up with in 1982. And she's still commemorating him every single year. It's not something that ended well even and she's still commemorating him every year. This year. She didn't even put his name on the post. So which tells me that she's not she's not doing it's not a pick me move. It's not like Everybody look at me, right? It's this is a very genuine expression of grief, that some people will know what she's doing. And the people who know are the only ones who matter and everybody else who doesn't know what she's doing. It just doesn't matter. But that just kind of speaks to the impact that he had on everybody both in our culture and the people that he knew personally. Yeah,
Michelle Newman 4:57
she just put three little emojis like a day Have a little birthday cake and a heart and then listeners if you go to our Facebook feed, you can see we shared it and I didn't. I didn't put anything else really just her post and the comments we got people knew, right well people just know.
Kristin Nilsen 5:17
I think you'll find when you listen to this episode The 1970 7am radio gold episode, there was a substantial piece about Andy Gibb, which is why we're talking about him today. So please enjoy this rewind episode of am radio gold 1977. Don't forget that the PCPs is here because of listeners like you. We are a people powered program fully supported by monetary contributions from our members on Patreon, we quite literally could not do it without you. If you'd like to become a supporter, visit our website or our Lincoln bio and click on the Patreon link. You can join for as little as the price of one Swanson frozen TV dinner, just one, but that TV dinner goes a long way in helping us keep the lights on and the bills paid. Every dollar helps this podcast and this community grow reaching more listeners and creating more episodes. And in return for your support. We'll send you thank you gifts in the form of podcast outtakes videos of our recording sessions and invitations to members only events. Thanks to you. We think we have something pretty special going on. And we are just getting started. Thanks for your time, your support and all those good vibes. And please enjoy the show.
Carolyn Cochrane 6:23
And let me tell you guys, I crushed hard on David, I think I've shared some of this with you. I had my Starsky and Hutch, SOX and everything. And as you know, I did get to stay home from Saturday Night mass on one of the Starsky and Hutch two partners that was continued and I could not miss the To be continued and my parents let me stay home and it was very nice.
Kristin Nilsen 6:42
I love that your parents let you stay home like they understood how important mr. Skinner was But you did
Carolyn Cochrane 6:47
say you know you're gonna miss the dinner at Red Lobster. I mean, they try this right mints me with the Red Lobster
Michelle Newman 6:55
biscuits that
Carolyn Cochrane 6:58
nothing gets me and
Unknown Speaker 7:03
it's a song that was saying come on get
Michelle Newman 7:15
we'll make you welcome to the pop culture Preservation Society. The podcast for people born in the big wheel generation who like they're deep, deep dogs wrapped in foil.
Carolyn Cochrane 7:27
We believe our Gen X childhoods gave us unforgettable songs, stories, characters and images. And if we don't talk about them, they'll disappear like narshall Will and Holly on a routine expedition. And
Kristin Nilsen 7:40
today we'll be saving the music that came out of our transistors, our car stereos and our Mickey Mouse radios, Panasonic GE or RadioShack it doesn't matter. We'll be saving the songs that are certified by us to be am radio gold, specifically from the year 1977.
Carolyn Cochrane 7:58
I'm Carolyn,
Kristin Nilsen 7:59
I'm Kristen.
Michelle Newman 8:01
And I'm Michelle and we are your pop culture preservationists saying come on get
Kristin Nilsen 8:14
the break we'll make you welcome to our first installment of an ongoing series called am radio gold celebrating the songs we heard when am radio was king or more precisely when am radio was all we had? Because if you were listening to the radio prior to 1980 whether it was in the car in the kitchen on your nightstand or on that little transistor radio you held your ear it was most definitely on the am frequency.
Michelle Newman 8:40
And you guys wasn't I like last week. years old eight years old when I learned that
Kristin Nilsen 8:47
yes, Michelle does not know what our episode is about as of a week ago she's like trying to she's like looking for Rush Limbaugh song.
Michelle Newman 8:56
I'm embarrassed but but I'm gonna own it because when Christians like it was the songs on your am radio and I said but you guys I didn't listen to am radio and Christmas like Did you listen to music before night? Yes, but I didn't listen to like talk radio, or opera or crushershe And she's like, Is that all you think was on am radio? Yes.
Kristin Nilsen 9:22
Was no FM if you guys recall. So FM radio really didn't come into play for a really long time. And we didn't make that transfer really until the 80s. So 70s music is am radio gold. Well, I'm glad
Michelle Newman 9:34
to learn that I did listen to am radio. Yes, you did.
Kristin Nilsen 9:37
I love and I loved it. You know, you know songs, which means that you listen to am radio and those of you in the audience you did too. So today we're focusing on the year 1977 Because I'm in charge and I lived for radio in 1977. And by this time I had found Casey case on Sunday nights and I either listened to the countdown on my transistor radio Hidden under my pillow, or I use the clock radio on my nightstand. A clock radio, I might add. I recently tracked down on eBay and ceremoniously placed upon my nightstand once again where it belongs.
Carolyn Cochrane 10:13
I love that I do too. Yes, those clock radios are I had mine the very first one I got was actually in 1977. And it saw me through my entire adult that I had that thing until probably the early 2000s. It was the clock radio I ever owned for a while Andy and I both had our OG clock radios on each of our nightstands. And only because I didn't really need a clock radio anymore, did I get rid of it? It was the red digital numbers. And besides my family that radio was the constant in my life for ever. I mean, from 1977 When I'm in middle school to my early newlywed years, Mary,
Michelle Newman 10:55
that's one of those flat ones that are brown on top. Yeah, we had one of those are hanging around for years. I bet it was Brian's and I remember it was always hanging around like when we'd have guests over and when they needed o'clock or something I wonder if we still have that he would just flat Yes. Had the yet had the digital. The red ones not the ones that flip?
Carolyn Cochrane 11:21
No and do flip ones. And that was annoying. Yeah. It's
Kristin Nilsen 11:25
loud. It is especially when it when all three numbers turns or when it turns at eight o'clock goes for
Carolyn Cochrane 11:31
a drunk night.
Michelle Newman 11:35
Like that, that clock radio ASMR.
Kristin Nilsen 11:37
And I can tell the time, I can be nowhere near o'clock. And I hear chunk like, Oh, it's getting late. It's like midnight, I better go to bed. I mean, because I have one right now big surprise. I do have a flip clock right now. And
Carolyn Cochrane 11:51
they obviously mean something to us. I mean, the fact that you went on eBay and found it. And now have it back on your nightstand when you think about like laying in bed at night and just you know, we can't fall asleep and we're crying over the boyfriend that you know rejected us or we've got that hard final in the morning or you're making a big decision and it's the first thing you see when you wake up and you're hitting the thing or you're listening for your school number for a snow you know for the snow day. It's just been there for all of that so I think that's why it's it's such an so much came
Kristin Nilsen 12:25
through that radio, I heard all of the music of my childhood on that radio and my it was an analog clock and the little twisty dial. Okay, that would that would go up and down the frequency. And it to me it's a real mid century cultural icon so when it sits on my nightstand right now, it looks like a like a decorative piece. I mean, to me it does. Mike is like why do you have a broken clock? It looks like it represents a lot to me. And yeah, and I think the Casey Kay some part of it is really significant. Because case a case was my dude, he was my buddy every Sunday night for so many years. And he came through that little analog radio well,
Michelle Newman 13:12
and we learned back on our sad songs of the 70s episode, way back and that was in like February of 2021. Listener. So that's a fun episode to go back and listen to. But we learned that Christa not only listened to every Sunday night, but she kept a tiny notebook. And she wrote down the order of the countdown and the songs and then she'd hide it. She listened to it so special monks that like like that snails could hear it. Yeah, because I did
Kristin Nilsen 13:40
get in trouble. Because it ended at 11pm. And I and that was way past my bedtime. And I knew that the chances of my parents coming in and telling me that it was time to turn off the radio would come any minute. And honestly, that would be tragedy if I couldn't find out what the number one song was. And I couldn't let go online and find out what the number one song was you had to be listening. And so I would incrementally turn down the radio. I would like turn it down, let my ears get used to it, write it down, let my ears get used to it until it was so low that in the morning I would wake up and the radio would be on and I wouldn't be able to hear it. Right. Like my superpower.
Michelle Newman 14:19
Currently on Sirius radio. They have like the 70s channel and you'll hear the old Casey case from countdown. I will sit in parking lots, I will find my phone. I'll sit in the driveway. I'll take a lap around the block because I've just been listening to this for the past 30 minutes. There's no way I mean I
Kristin Nilsen 14:37
didn't have to know what the number one song it's also
Michelle Newman 14:39
fun now to go back to that station and test your knowledge. I'll go if we're in the car together we'll go Okay. Wait so five was this four was this three was this two is this word? 1971 Eight. Okay, I'm gonna bet number one is you know, so it's kind of a fun little game to play.
Kristin Nilsen 14:55
I love playing that game and Mike won't play with me. I'll be like, okay, okay, okay. Would you think it is and Mike will be like, I don't know how the hell would I know I'm like, I think I think it's because you're like,
Michelle Newman 15:06
No one before this podcast I wouldn't I will be honest with you before, but we've learned so much
Kristin Nilsen 15:11
this has been an education. You can now make educated guesses. And you guys quite often I'm right. Although I guess I was keeping track of the top 10 in a notebook from like 1975 until I graduated from college 1977 gave us some of the most memorable music in history. To see how big 1977 was. All you have to do is look to the Grammy Awards of 1978, which gives awards to music released in the previous year. So music released in 1977 would be given a 1978 Grammy. This was the 20th Grammy Awards, and it was hosted by John Denver, in the biggest bowtie you've ever seen. Think
Michelle Newman 15:49
it's gonna eat us head. I know it's so big,
Kristin Nilsen 15:52
so big. Okay, so the just listen to this album of the year was rumors by Fleetwood Mac. The Best Pop Vocal group was the BGS for how deep is your love? The best r&b performance nominations included the Commodores, Aretha Franklin Marvin Gaye and Leo Sayer. I don't actually get that one and you guys Leo Sayer one Leo's here one the yes for you make me feel like dancing away. Is that an r&b song? I mean, listeners we're
Michelle Newman 16:26
gonna be singing a lot and the note and again, I'll show you a couple of episodes again. When I said a couple of episodes before we all sound like fantastic to us and we sound like we're in harmony. And we realize now and literally listening to these episodes we're not in we do still some fantastic, but we're all we're all like one beat behind each other. So apologies but it's not going to make us stop singing
Kristin Nilsen 16:50
it so yeah, I just think it's weird that Leo say are one with that song that isn't actually an r&b song against come on Marvin Gaye and Aretha Franklin, please. Okay, best country song nominations included. Don't it make my brown eyes blue by Crystal Gayle Lucille by Kenny love Kenny Loggins, Kenny Rogers, not the same. Not the same. No, no and Desperado. Which I never thought of as a country song, but it works. Desperado.
Michelle Newman 17:18
I love Karen Carpenter's version of that. You guys. Those are three top songs. That's a hard one. That's
Kristin Nilsen 17:24
huge.
Carolyn Cochrane 17:25
What Why don't you? I'll tell you in a little bit, because it's my favorite. Oh, okay. Okay,
Kristin Nilsen 17:30
so Best Original Score nominations doesn't seem like it's something that we would pay a lot of attention to until you hear who the nominees are. Oh, my goodness, which includes Star Wars, Rocky, A star is born and you light up my life. Hello, 1977. Right. And then this one is even more obscure. category. We have the best instrumental arrangement nominations, which included again, this is only interesting because of these big names. So it included both Star Wars and rocky but also naughty as theme which is on the radio.
Michelle Newman 18:09
Yeah, right. Yeah, it's
Kristin Nilsen 18:10
an instrumental it's doo doo, doo doo, doo. Yeah, the restaurants are radio and it's a huge hit. A huge hit. We I know. It's a big big year. And our Best New Artist nominations included Debbie Boone, Andy Gibb, and Shaun Cassidy icons, all of them. Everything I mentioned was iconic, every single thing. If you
Michelle Newman 18:37
want viewing gold, go Google the 1978 Grammys. Shaun Cassidy and you'll see John Denver and his giant bow tie introduce Shaun Cassidy. And this is his first performance on the Grammys. And he's wearing all white and he's got his hair is just feathered to perfection act and he sings that's rock and roll. And he's adorable singing it. It's the cutest performance. Oh,
Carolyn Cochrane 19:07
my mannerisms are so great in that like, you know that certain kind of thing he does with like, she's doing it
Kristin Nilsen 19:13
right now. She's like, what you're doing you're you're getting your feathered hair out of your eyes. That's almost like
Carolyn Cochrane 19:20
didn't move. It was just like, yeah, it kind of moved, but I don't know. It's URI Shaun Cassidy. Yeah, it's perfection.
Kristin Nilsen 19:27
Also included in the Best New Artist nominations was foreigner which is so funny because I think of like hasn't foreigner always been around? That's classic rock When were they the best new artist? And that if you recall, that was when cold as ice came out, which is such a great song. And I remember hearing that song for the first time on James at 15. But I looked and I cannot find that clip anywhere. James at 15 and cold as ice, huh? willing to sacrifice
Carolyn Cochrane 19:57
was one of my first eight RACs was really
Kristin Nilsen 20:01
so all that is really interesting. However today is not a history lesson. Today is personal and Carolyn and Michelle and I are going to share the songs we waited for on the radio will tell you who we were where we were and what the songs meant. Okay
Carolyn Cochrane 20:18
guys, I know that we already talked about the clock radios that we had on our nightstands. I didn't get mine till the end actually, it might have been 77 September my birthday. But there are some distinct radio memories that I do have where I heard these songs. One was our built in whole house intercom system that had a radio so the 70s it was a really big thing to have like this radio in your kitchen. But you could push a button and every bedroom had a little speaker by the door. And like my mom could call us to breakfast, Carolyn and Ronnie time for breakfast. Or you could play the music and so every morning when we came for breakfast, am music would be playing out of that radio in our kitchen. So cool. So that is aware. Oh, I know. We felt really cool. And then my sister and I would play airplane with it. So one person would sit in a room like they were in a seat. Buckle your seatbelts were about to take off and we thought that was so cool. So there was that radio, and then there was my Texaco Havilland radio can radio so my dad worked for Texaco, and they had this promotional gimmick marketing tool that was looked like I haven't seen radio but Hamelin Can we all can, but it was a radio and that you guys is my iconic am radio memory because it had the battery I could take it you know, wherever I wanted. So iconic. And part of my growing up that in researching this and getting ready for this episode, I had to go on eBay and see does do these exist? Like can you find it? Right now? I am the highest bidder. Yes, so far it ends tomorrow. Keep your fingers crossed listeners. By the time you hear this, I will know if I am the proud owner of a Havilland radio. Okay,
Kristin Nilsen 22:04
i You've inspired me, I'm gonna go online now. And I'm going to look for my very first radio, we talked about my clock radio. But my very first radio was a Mickey Mouse radio with a strap on it. So I could carry it around, like a transistor that way in the end, there was like a speaker in his ear. And now that I think about it, I thought I got that when I was five or six years old. So I was kind of being indoctrinated into listening to music really, really young. Yeah. And so that little transistor radio, this was an activity for me, this is not something that you would find a kid in 2020 to doing. I would get a blanket, and I would go out in the backyard. And I would take my transistor radio, and I would listen to the radio. Yeah, web 63 kt web on your am dial. And it's sort of like you just sit there and like listening to the music was the activity. It wasn't background music. That's what I was doing. Right? Well,
Michelle Newman 22:59
true character. I don't remember what I was listening to. I didn't even know I was listening to am radio in 1977. But I've determined after consulting my graphs, I've determined that I was in Arlington, Texas because I was in third grade. And it was it was really good year like I loved our house I loved I had my best friend. I do remember my best friend's name was Ashley Wiley. But as far as radios, my first one I remember really was and I still own it is my my long pink sharp cassette player. That classic pink, you know and it's in my office right now. It's a little it's like a little boombox. Yeah, and that would have been FM because this would have been post 1980 I do believe in 1980 for Christmas my sister and I both got turntable but had a radio in it and I looked online like the thing that went up that lifted up over the turntable the lid was almost like a
Carolyn Cochrane 23:54
smoky Brown I think I have the same
Michelle Newman 23:58
set on you know it had the the silver that had the radio dial on it.
Kristin Nilsen 24:02
Yeah
if I had to choose my favorite song, and these don't have to be our favorites. These are just songs that were meaningful to us or we couldn't wait to hear. Okay, so when I hear this song that was my favorite in 1977. First you hear like a drum beat and then there's a synthesizer
a synthesizer notice held, and then it modulates. And then it's held. And when I hear that, my heart jumps into my throat, literally right now when when I'm 54 years old, it jumps into my throat. Sometimes I'll gasp, asked Liam, sometimes I'll hear the synthesizer. And then I wait for Andy Gibb to say
Michelle Newman 24:57
so long. It's getting kind of those
Kristin Nilsen 25:05
I haven't found any code. I love that song to. The song of course is I want to be your everything. And this was the song that introduced the world to Andy Gibb. Oh, and how did we get introduced to Andy Gibb? This is from his first album flowing rivers, which I was not even aware of the album flowing rivers. I was just enjoying the song on the radio. But it turns out flowing rivers is a kick ass album, and we might devote an entire episode just to flowing rivers someday. So this was the first of three number one singles for Andy Gibb, which made him the first male solo artists with three consecutive number one singles. It went to number one in July of 1977. It stayed there for several weeks. Then it was bumped to number two by his brothers. I think it was night fever. It was went to number two. And then in September, it popped back up to number one. How about when does that happen? Isn't that crazy? Yeah. The little song that could you guys it was in the top 10 for months. For months. It was on the chart for almost a year, like seven, eight months. It was on the chart.
Carolyn Cochrane 26:12
Well think about this. Now Chris, didn't you are going to sleep with him? And you're like, you know, every Sunday night, you're hearing him at some point on Casey Qassem. Because he's in the top. So yeah, no wonder I mean, he was that most consistent voice in yours there as you were going, he
Michelle Newman 26:30
was there. Yeah, so long. That's another thing this podcast has created. For me. It's like, I always loved that song. But until we started doing having these conversations, and talking about music, and the BGS, and everything, all of our memories I've listened to I just want to be your everything more in the past year and a half than I've listened to it probably ever in 1977. Because
Kristin Nilsen 26:57
then I ever feels so good. I have a physical reaction to this song.
Michelle Newman 27:03
He says, open up your heart, or when he says in your home
Kristin Nilsen 27:08
pod and let me be the thing that you like to me and stuff. And then here's the thing about that you guys, who says and I this is just like, I'm picturing you carry on with your headphones on listening to Shaun Cassidy, take a breath. He says, not just a puppet on a string. She says, stream and it's so gentle and it's so light and it's just like he's so vulnerable. And actually, if you listen to a lot of big songs, you'll hear Barry Gibb say, string or misunderstood, or listened. I'm serious. Listen to too much have able to listen to Jive Talking. You'll hear Barry Gibb do the same thing. And I just think it tells you how connected these brothers were. Or maybe I don't know people in Australia, is that an Australian thing?
Carolyn Cochrane 27:57
Maybe they say you're a speech impediment.
Kristin Nilsen 28:01
But it doesn't say every s that way. It's only certain words, not just a puppet on a string.
Michelle Newman 28:08
Yeah. sexy song to have the way he said,
Kristin Nilsen 28:12
Yes. You just fall in love with him because he's so in love. You totally believe him. And there is some controversy online because, you know, there's a face on, because a lot of people argue about who this song is about. And they really very badly want this song to be about his new wife, because he got married in July of 1976. And this was recorded in October of 1976. Before it was released in 1977. And he was only 18 years old. He married a woman named Kim reader. And this of course, was not known by those of us reading Tiger Beat magazine. I don't know what I would have done with that information. I'm not exactly sure. I mean, he basically went from getting married to being a superstar in like a matter of months. It was just
Michelle Newman 29:02
they needed to sell him as this hot single.
Kristin Nilsen 29:05
They really did right and they just and they did that by splashing him all over Tiger Beat for all of us to fall in love with. So the other thing that people will will argue about is Okay, number one is this song about his new wife is this was the song written on his honeymoon was the song recorded on his honeymoon and you can't find any. It's hard to find verification of any of that. So I decided to go to the most reliable source that I could. And I sent a message to Andy Gibbs daughter, and I asked her for clarification. I know Wait,
Michelle Newman 29:39
why? How are we just now learning about this? Did you want to surprise us with to surprise
Kristin Nilsen 29:44
you? And bless her heart you guys she was gonna leave us a voicemail message but she lost her voice and she couldn't leave a message
Michelle Newman 29:52
we need to remind listeners that Kristen and Andy Gibbs daughter our social media, friends social which is highly Just like talk about blowing your mind.
Kristin Nilsen 30:02
Oh my god, your mind just explodes, your mind just explodes. And so she explained that. No, it couldn't be about her mom because this song was written entirely by Barry Gibb and not by Andy give it up, not for lack of trying, because apparently Andy Gibb has said in interviews that he was he was there, like, Okay, how about this? But Barry Gibb wrote so fast that by the time he's saying why don't we open with this Barry Gibbs on the chorus. And then and then the song is done. He said he wrote the song in about 20 minutes. Wow. Totally done. Yeah. But they all she also said that her parents honeymooned in Bermuda and Barry Gibb wrote the song with Andy Gibb in Bermuda, so it is possible that it was written on their honeymoon. They were honeymooning at Robert Stiglitz house in Bermuda.
Michelle Newman 30:54
Oh my gosh. With the Beegees with thingies Yeah. Had to do a little work.
Carolyn Cochrane 31:00
You guys this is all important, very insightful information like now I know where he honeymooned I thought you there weren't a lot of people that know that. That's not common knowledge. Christian
Michelle Newman 31:10
that was just she's so like, laissez faire about it. She was so I had to go into the source. And she's just right now like you guys can't see this. She's just right now like reapplying her Dr. Pepper Lip Smacker another day, just just another day. So you guys, I went to the source i i had to go and ask Andy Gibbs daughter and you know, we had this little back and forth and she was gonna leave a voicemail, you know, poor things got the flu. Like this is just common now for Christian to converse with Andy Gibbs thought daughter. Wow.
Kristin Nilsen 31:40
Suffice it to say that that left those words, his music, his voice left an imprint on my heart. And I'm just gonna go into like some of the lyrics but I don't know there's not much more for me to say because I'll just sing the whole song. I'll just sing the whole song because all the words are meaningful to me. All of them. They're like a puzzle piece. And I know that that's Barry Gibbs doing he you know, even like darlin, mine. What does darling mine? I don't know. But it's just so no than mine. It's so beautiful. I would wait forever for those lips of a wine. And he says it. Those are lips. I'm a one. Those are lips of a wine. He doesn't like a little puzzle. And it just borrows its way into my heart still today
Unknown Speaker 32:25
forever for those lips. I
Carolyn Cochrane 32:29
love that. And that song is we're talking about burrowing into hearts that has burrowed into mine is one of my favorites from 1977. And I'll call this song the family favorite. Because this is one that my entire family would not just sing but belt out. And this would be Lucille you pick to find
Unknown Speaker 32:50
me Lucy
Carolyn Cochrane 32:58
Mike Kenny Rogers.
Kristin Nilsen 32:59
We're not Kenny Loggins? No,
Carolyn Cochrane 33:01
not Kenny Loggins, the other bearded gentleman Rogers, which actually won that Grammy award you were talking about for Best Country vocal performance. Yes. And it was his first number one hit of 21 hits. Okay, Kenny, is the man. I mean, what a guy.
Michelle Newman 33:19
Recently I've gone back and just listened to this as Kenny Rogers on Spotify sometimes. And so many songs come on, that I forgot about. And I would only listen to those I'm sure if I heard them on the radio or when I was visiting my dad, because he loved country music but oh man, there's a lot of there's a lot that we forgot about.
Carolyn Cochrane 33:36
Or classic. And this was his first solo performance too, because he had been a member of the New Edition prior or the first edition should the newer the first for first edition
he had declared Yes, yeah. Kenny was in the very first edition. But anyway, this is his first solo outing, and he hits number one, which is kind of exciting. And my family knew all of that words. And I can see us in the car belting out that song. And I also had this visual in my head. So as we know there's the song for hungry kids and a crop in the field. And I saw these four hungry kids in my head, like in the field like standing next to wheat stalks, like looking off for Lauren because Lucile their mother has left them in this field.
Kristin Nilsen 34:35
Literally left them in the field. She literally loved Did
Michelle Newman 34:38
you remember in our misheard lyrics for her children piano crotch
Carolyn Cochrane 34:43
that crotch that won't heal. Another thing I discovered when I was doing a little research on Lucile is a really fun read website called Am i right? So am I right.com We'll put it in the notes, but it includes parodies of popular songs. So people like submit parodies of songs that they've written. And Lucille has quite a few that have been submitted two of my favorites were one Starbucks in Toledo. So the very first line is in a bar in Toledo across, across from the depot well, on a barstool, she took off her ring. That's in the parody. It's a Starbucks in Toledo. And it's very fun. All the lines. So
Michelle Newman 35:25
let's put that in the week that we'll put a link to that in the Weekly Reader this week. Yeah, sounds like a really fun website.
Carolyn Cochrane 35:31
So that's one of my 1977 gems. Well, my
Michelle Newman 35:35
songs and just so you guys know, I don't have any like, fun facts or anything factual about any of my songs. I'm going strictly on why the songs were important to live on the shelf. That's what I want to hear. My number one song is that's rock and roll by Shaun Cassidy, which reached number 79. I do have that fact and the top 100 for the day in summary. And if you listen to our first episode, our very, very first episode. You guys all know why the song made my top three and my top one from 1977. And it is all about the dance. In 1977, we lived across the street from my sister's best friend, Penny. And when they would make up little dances to songs, I often got to participate. Like they needed me right, they needed Michelle's ability. And so the dance we made up to that's rock and roll has stuck with me for 45 You
Kristin Nilsen 36:32
can still do it. Oh,
Michelle Newman 36:34
I can still do it. You guys know when we saw Shawn in concert last summer. I was doing the dance. When that part came and you guys do remember his guitar string broke, like halfway through that song after like the first chorus. And I was I was like in the mid. I was like mid dance mid Korea. You're like mid shimmy. I was so upset because I thought no, no, that's why I came. Surely he's going to get a new good. And when they handed him a new guitar. He went on with his next song. I was crushed. But um, yeah. So anyway, if you guys remember my costume was just so snazzy. It was a plain black leotard. But my sister and Penny had those stitched rainbow jean shorts. You guys remember those are like tiny jean shorts, but they have like the embroidery stitch of the rainbow lines on them. Those eventually got passed down to me. A couple of years later, I loved those shorts and oh, it's just so great. Like, I think we performed on our back deck and we probably perform for our moms and like David Penny's little brother, but by the good grace of my mom, she had our giant you know, like you know eight what are those called like that?
Kristin Nilsen 37:43
doesn't make it right Milla millimeter
Michelle Newman 37:45
movie camera. So I have video footage of a snippet of this dance. And it's like, you know what, the world has thanked me. Sadly, it's without the sound but I know exactly what part of the dance this song goes to. Because like I said, I remember the dance. And I posted it on our Instagram stories before but I don't know you guys, I think it might need to come back out this week.
Kristin Nilsen 38:12
Oh my god yeah.
Another one of my favorites from 1977 was the era CUDA like I hurt. Is that how you have to say it, you have to say that you absolutely do.
This, this whole album had such an impact on me just from a visual standpoint, because you walk into the record store, and you would see Anna, Nancy Wilson on the cover of little queen, which is the name of the album. And they're just like, they're just staring down the camera, but not in a sexual way. They are badass before we had the word badass, right? And this was real and true rock and roll. And that was not something you saw very often. And one of those women was the guitar player. That was something you never saw, ever know. And so I would just, I didn't own the album, I would just visit it at the record store knowing what these women had to offer for me. And it was so meaningful, even though I had no desire to play the guitar. That's not what I was getting inspiration from. It was inspiration from her doing it right like she was being so bad has like, there's no other word that's just so awesome for it.
Michelle Newman 39:52
It was the possibility it was the possibility and being that badass was nuda without something kind of new
Kristin Nilsen 39:59
and They were in charge, it was new. They were breaking the rules. They were in charge. They were on the cover of that album. They weren't being sexual. And this was rock and roll. So the song, you know, the song itself has sort of a mesmerizing driving beat. And so I, I was not I was not big into rock and roll at that time, like true hard rock and roll, but this song captured me and it was almost like I couldn't look away, right, everybody stopped everybody just stop and listen to this song. The song is actually a statement about the record industry. And it was about heart and Nancy Wilson. It was about hurts anger toward an ad that their record label Mushroom Records had placed in a trade publication, implying that Ann and Nancy were lesbian lovers. were sisters. They were sisters. I mean, this is, is why it's a
Michelle Newman 40:56
well, it's gonna go back to our carpenter where they tried to insinuate that Richard and Karen were lovers,
Kristin Nilsen 41:04
and and discovers this ad after a concert when a record promoter comes up to me and he's like, Hey, how's your love? And she's like, You mean, my boyfriend? This guy over here? He's like, No, Nancy. She's like, That's my sister.
Michelle Newman 41:21
She was our sister.
Kristin Nilsen 41:22
I don't know. But she went directly back to her hotel room, and she wrote this song. And the rumor is that the original title for the song was mother fucker. Oh,
Unknown Speaker 41:34
read it in bed and that it ended and then the
Carolyn Cochrane 41:40
same amount of syllables. Maybe they had a final word that had the some of the same sound to America.
Kristin Nilsen 41:47
They get like a predatory fish. Yeah.
Michelle Newman 41:49
Well, it's a predator of knowing that now because now when that song does pop up on one of my playlists, that's what I'm gonna sing out loud. Yeah, it doesn't fancy meant well. So it's just a good song to sing. When you have a lot of feelings inside. What kind of feelings that you need to get out to
Kristin Nilsen 42:05
throw that on? Absolutely. Yeah.
Michelle Newman 42:07
But now especially that you can show Oh, mother. Yeah, say it like that. Oh,
Carolyn Cochrane 42:15
I better not forget to push the little explicit. Yeah.
Kristin Nilsen 42:20
Yeah, hey, we're just quoting,
Carolyn Cochrane 42:21
hey, we're just a lot we're quoting.
Michelle Newman 42:24
Sorry. Sometimes it needs to be said, oh.
Carolyn Cochrane 42:30
I'm going to share my next song, which app happens to be by my celebrity crush or one of them at that time? So, you know, Michelle and Kristen have each shared one from theirs with Sean and Andy. This was sung by David soul. You know, Hutch from I mean, yeah. Hutch from stars hanging out. Yeah. I shouldn't have it Hutch from Starsky and Hutch, and he's saying the ever lovely ballad don't give up on us. Yep. And let me tell you guys, I crushed hard on David. I think I've shared some of this with you. I had my Starsky and Hutch, SOX, and everything. And as you know, I did get to stay home from Saturday Night mass on one of the Starsky and Hutch, two partners that was continued and I could not miss the To be continued. And my parents let me stay home and it was very nice. I love
Kristin Nilsen 43:23
that your parents let you stay home. Like they understood how important mr. Skinner was that you did say,
Carolyn Cochrane 43:28
you know, you're gonna miss the dinner at Red Lobster. I mean, they tried me with the Red Lobster what it was about kids. Nothing gets between me and Hutch and so I I loved that song. Unfortunately for David, that was his only hit in the United States. It did hit number one on the Billboard Top 100 In April of 1977. And it also has the dubious ranking of number 93 from VH ones. Top 100 greatest one hit wonders. So it squeaked in at number 93. But yeah, David did not have another another hit after that. That
Kristin Nilsen 44:09
was a good song. A lot of people Oh,
Michelle Newman 44:13
very deftly definitely should have a one hit wonder right. We still love that song today. And we
Kristin Nilsen 44:17
love that song. Yeah, like you said today people are like, yes. Well,
Carolyn Cochrane 44:22
evidently he David re recorded it in 2004 after he heard it being played in an elevator but it was Owen Wilson's cover of the song from the film version of Starsky and Hutch. So I have seen that I've now seen the clip from the movie. It does look kind of darling. Oh, and Wilson. I really like Owen Wilson. Yeah, really cute. Ben Stiller adorable. Adorable. And Ben Stiller in the clip he's wearing you know. Star skis big sweater enough stars on it, it is now me My to be watched list. It's cute. And lastly, the song came back into my view when I saw it prominently featured in the Hulu series candy, which just came out in the past year such a I mean, I really enjoyed it starts to feel. And it's an epic kind of walked down memory lane in terms of the the scenery and just all the props and everything in that show. So if you haven't seen candy, it's on Hulu. And this song features prominently in that scene
Kristin Nilsen 45:31
along with some big ass headphones too. Oh, yeah.
Carolyn Cochrane 45:34
I mean, it's just really fun to
Michelle Newman 45:36
watch. That's on my tongue that's on my watch. It's
Carolyn Cochrane 45:38
a good one. It's really freaky because it's a true story. That's
Kristin Nilsen 45:41
true crime raises.
Michelle Newman 45:42
I love those.
Kristin Nilsen 45:44
She's so good. Oh, yeah. Don't give up on us.
Unknown Speaker 45:57
Future isn't just one. It's written in the stars, we can change don't give up. One more. Last.
Michelle Newman 46:30
Okay, so my second song that I picked is another song and story I've shared on this podcast. I believe I shared it in our sad songs of the 70s episode, but for the new kids in class, I'll tell it again. And the song is after the lovin by Engelbert Humperdinck. And the song did reach number is 61 on the year end, top 100. But this song is just so meaningful to me because I have vivid memories of singing it with my daddy, who I lost when I was 10. And now he didn't die until I was in my early 20s. But I didn't get to see him or speak to him after I was 10. And it's a really long story. And it's a really sad story. But anyway, anyway,
Carolyn Cochrane 47:10
who after them, and by still working
Michelle Newman 47:14
through that I'm in therapy, so don't worry, I'm fine. She
Kristin Nilsen 47:17
taken care of it.
Michelle Newman 47:18
For the for the first it sounds like I'm laughing and really you guys I might cry. Anyway, for the first 10 years of my life, I did get to see him like twice or three times a year. And I loved my daddy, I loved him so much. And we had so much fun together. And one fun thing to know about my dad is that he loved to sing. And he you know, he thought of himself as a pretty good singer. In fact, I have framed in my office a little 45 He cut to the tune of raindrops keep falling on my head. But it's a song about the sportswear line that he was wrapping at the time because he was in the apparel business at the time. And I came across it about a year ago and I got a cute little frame for it and it's in my office. But anyway, back to after the lovin I can remember driving in his car, and I'd be standing up in the backseat, you know, like hold like draped over the front seat. So like my head was right next to his butt. You know, we don't wear seatbelts like we've recently discussed so I'm standing up and we do get to the song and hit sing lead and I do all the backups like I'm going to give you a little example please my key would say thanks for taking me and I'd go thanks for taking me oh one way trips to those one way trip to the sun and thanks for turning me thanks for turning into a song one salsa and then when had you at the very end had to oh but after the lovin and I'd go after the so cute so that song is
Kristin Nilsen 48:55
a hump in the bed special has a special memory for me yeah, that's beautiful. That is so cute
Unknown Speaker 49:20
students
Kristin Nilsen 49:38
Okay, my next song is a song that I've loved since the day that it came out. I've loved it since the first day that I heard it. I have. I always sing along except that I don't know the words. I can only I kind of like stumble like numero neurohormone run in the year of the cat That's the only word they know, or the year of the cat. And I think that's the case for a lot of people. Part of it is that L Stewart, the artist is from Scotland. And so his team, he has an accent that comes through kind of in a, we don't know what he's saying. But also, the words are really obscure and weird, and we don't know what he's talking about. And so we can't follow the story. The truth is, there is an actual story to the year of the cat. Does anybody know what the story is? I mean, why is there a
Carolyn Cochrane 50:33
cat does it have to do with the Chinese New, that's what I was thinking. Okay,
Kristin Nilsen 50:37
so the title that year of the cat does come from the astrological aspect of the year. It is actually the Vietnamese lunar calendar. So he's his girlfriend at the time, had thrown a book down that she was reading and it opened up to a page and it said, the year of the cat. So in the Vietnamese lunar calendar, the year of the cat is the same as the Chinese Lunar calendars Year of the Rabbit. And that has no significance whatsoever, except that he said, he said, I don't know a lot about a whole lot of things. But I recognize a song title when I see one. And that was a song title. And so he grabbed the title first, and then had to figure out what the lyrics would be. Is it a song about a cat? I just assumed it was a song about a cat but it is not. It is actually about Casablanca. Blanca the movie? Yes, I seriously no idea. More specifically, it is about a love affair taking place in Casablanca. It's inspired by the movie Casablanca, and the love affair is taking place in 1975, which happens to be the year of the cat. Okay, but I think that is MacGyvered because otherwise how can he he's gotta be able to find some reason for it to be the year of cat well love affair taken place in 1975. So when you know that it's about Casablanca. Oh, now the words make sense. Okay, so the song opens with on a morning from a Bogart movie. Hello, Casablanca. In a country where they turn back time. Do you remember what the hit from Casablanca is?
Michelle Newman 52:18
Oh, yeah, it's um, it's um, no, I mean, I do but I'm not going to not end the time. I mean, if you guys I want to sit here in silence.
Kristin Nilsen 52:26
It's not a test. I'll just tell you as time goes by, yes. Oh, that's right. from Casablanca to play the
Carolyn Cochrane 52:32
clarinet. Yeah.
Michelle Newman 52:36
In your stitch tally hobby. Yes. I
Carolyn Cochrane 52:38
had like a Hollywood soundtrack. You know, songbook for the clarinet. Oh,
Kristin Nilsen 52:42
my God, I have a fantasy about you getting a holly Hobbie tattoo.
Carolyn Cochrane 52:46
Oh my gosh. Might be okay.
Michelle Newman 52:50
Just as an aside, you guys use a different word than fantasy and that statement? I have an image of you.
Kristin Nilsen 52:56
I have a daydream a future a future idea. Okay, so then the next line is the one that nobody knows what he's saying. Because and this is what the line is. You go strolling through the crowd, like Peter Lorre. Peter Lorre is Humphrey Bogart co star in Casablanca. He's the bad guy. But when you're listening to the sound, you go, you reverse routed through the crowd, like beat DeLorean and now and I'm like, maybe I thought it was like an Italian word or something like,
Carolyn Cochrane 53:33
oh, gosh,
Kristin Nilsen 53:34
I'm gonna read you the whole thing so that you can hear the Casablanca. Okay, on a morning from a Bogart movie in a country where they turn back time you go through strolling through the crowd, like Pete delorey. contemplating a crime. She comes out of the sun in a silk dress running like a watercolor in the rain. Don't bother asking for explanations. She'll just tell you that she came from the year, cat.
Michelle Newman 53:59
You know, it's funny, though, when I'm listening to you read those? Yeah, I can hear them perfectly. Yes. That always happens though. Right? When you're like, I have no idea what this says. And when you read it, you're like, of course, that's what they say. Right.
Carolyn Cochrane 54:11
Right. I mean, talk about misheard lyrics. I can only imagine what I have been belting out because I'm sure I say actual words. I don't know like boda boda. I'm saying something but what the hell am I saying because no one was committing a crime or anything like that. And in
Kristin Nilsen 54:28
my version you and I did Why would Peter Lorre be in a song?
Carolyn Cochrane 54:31
I don't think I'd have known who Peter Lorre. Whoa, no, beat the Lord on demonic Brahma bull God and acum jewel. He got strong to Laura. She comes out of dress running I don't bother. Explanation should tell you that in the era All right, well you guys, I want to now introduce you to the song that really made me feel like a grown up when I was listening to this. I could be shaking my glass of apple juice that I thought I was at cocktail going, oh yes, you don't have to be a star baby to be in my shoes
Speaker 2 55:32
you don't have to
Carolyn Cochrane 55:50
just love that song. But like I said, it made me feel like a grown up because I had grown up with my parents listening to the fifth dimension. And we had those albums. And I can remember some of the albums and staring at the album covers and looking at the photograph of the members of the fifth dimension. And I always thought that Marilyn McCoo she could have done so much better. Billy Davis Jr. Her husband? I don't know why I thought she was just elegant and she was taller than he was. So that was always like, the guy always had to be taller than the girl for whatever reason, like a rule. Yeah. Which was very hard for someone like me who was tall, but I just thought she was elegant. And he she was just really could do better. And you're a star. Yes.
Kristin Nilsen 56:36
Even though you don't
Michelle Newman 56:37
have to be a star. You don't have to be Yeah, no, no, and
Carolyn Cochrane 56:40
that just seems so odd to me. But um, that song was a big hit. It actually won them the Grammy that year four best r&b Performance by a Duo or Group. Besides the Grammys, though, I think you know that a song is a hit when it's covered on a TV variety series. So if like Sonny and Cher sing a song or Donny and Marie, you know that it's a hit. So there's no doubt that this song was hit status because it was covered on the Brady Bunch variety our oh my gosh, by Barry Williams and Jerry racial. Jerry racially might say Who's that? Oh,
Michelle Newman 57:16
I know. I know.
Carolyn Cochrane 57:19
We heard you all do who is that? It's fake. It's our fake Jan Yes. Because and poor Jerry I think she will always be remembered in the annals of history as weighed in the history
Kristin Nilsen 57:31
of the annals
Carolyn Cochrane 57:36
Amelia Bedelia strikes the annals of history
Michelle Newman 57:43
also Jerry Rachel don't feel too sorry for her because she loves she has gone on record even recently as saying she loves it that that's given her so much good writing Oh yeah, they do like she can they do fun like meet and greets and because there's a lot of people that are very very like hugely you know fanatic about fake Jan so all
Carolyn Cochrane 58:03
right well there you go. Yeah, Jerry racial and annals of history Well, thank God we weren't like on some talk show being interviewed as PCPs people and I say yes, we hope to go down in the annals of history podcast wonderful history. So Thank you You're welcome listeners for all of you now but no, it's not annals of history. It's annals. Thank you. You're welcome, the more you know. Yeah. Okay, so
Michelle Newman 58:32
Okay, so my number three song I picked it purely for its singing ability. And it's feel goodness ability. Like it let's just say this it's a very easy song for a little eight year old in 1977 to sing along too loudly and that is your love has lifted me higher higher Hi didi. Reach number eight in the year top 100 Those are the only facts I gathered about the songs but I just remember enthused enthusiastically singing to this one. And you guys I mean that's slow opening that's so iconic Write Your love is lifting me then
it's so good. And then the four beats after she says then I've ever been lifted and I love the way she goes before her. Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo iconic. You know how you there's like certain songs and Kristen you had it at the beginning of I just want to be your everything but you can go back and there are certain songs throughout the history of your life that you have favorite musical moments from and I have them from a lot of different songs some current songs that are new on the radio Today all the way back and there's not a huge hand, there's not a huge number of them. But there's certain songs when you hear it, there's that one part of that song that just does something to you. And in parentheses, Your love has lifted me higher and higher. Because that's the way that it's that part where she goes, be full hog. do doo, doo, doo doo doo, doo doo. I just love
Kristin Nilsen 1:00:23
it. As always, thank you, Bob. Like you're just waiting for that moment. And so I
Carolyn Cochrane 1:00:27
particularly loved about her was the fact that she was married to Kris Kristofferson. And so he they were having that was a star's born kind of, yeah, same year. So I thought how cool like she has her own career, and she's doing her own thing. And I remember when my mom told me they were married. Well, I don't remember the exact moment, but I remember like that song being on and my dancing. Do you know who Rita Coolidge is married to? And because we had the album of stars born, and I hadn't seen a star's born obviously. But I thought that's so cool, man. You just seem kind of fun and hippie and when I
Michelle Newman 1:01:01
can remember being eight years old in 1977, and just being struck by how beautiful she was. I thought she
Kristin Nilsen 1:01:07
wanted that her hair there. Oh, god, that was my dream hair.
Carolyn Cochrane 1:01:13
I love that song.
Kristin Nilsen 1:01:14
I loved it. Okay, yeah, what song I think has probably one of the best lines and pop music comes from a 1977 song. Okay, so the song is the things we do for love by 10 cc and that line you know it like walk you
Unknown Speaker 1:01:32
know, when when there's nowhere to go.
Kristin Nilsen 1:01:41
And then here's the best part and you're looking for the answer and arrives and you think you're gonna break up? No. And you're just like, so excited. Yeah,
Carolyn Cochrane 1:01:53
you made I mean, you're I was holding my tickle deodorant microphone into my mirror.
Kristin Nilsen 1:02:02
And I love her. I love it so much. So apparently that line came from experience from the songwriter. He says, I remember walking through the rain in the snow when I lived in Manchester. I guess I should read it with my British accent. I remember walking through the rain in the snow when I lived in Manchester. And we didn't have a telephone. And I had to go and find a phone box to read the girl who was about to become my wife. The phones were down and it was snowing. And these vivid pictures are there just
Carolyn Cochrane 1:02:32
like James Bond or French
Speaker 1 1:02:42
that walking in the rain and snow when there's nowhere to go when you're being a part of you is dying. And you're looking for the answer and you think you got to break up. Then she says she wants to make
Carolyn Cochrane 1:03:03
I loved another song that made me feel kind of grown up and that would have been torn between two lovers by more Mary McGregor. Number one hit in February of 1977. And again the visual Oh no, she's torn this is this love triangle? Yeah, yeah,
Michelle Newman 1:03:20
just crazy. So agree with you. There was other songs even as we got older. Peaches and herb have one two. What's that one? Secret lovers? I don't know. It's peaches in Atlantic star. We are trying so hard to hide the way we feel. Okay, those songs almost gave me a little bit of a naughty feeling. But you did you kind of felt like but they're trusting me to know that.
Carolyn Cochrane 1:03:42
And I can sing the song too. And it was so inspiring that NBC decided to make a 1977 or 1979 TV movie of the same name, which starred Lee remmick George Picard and Joseph bologna. And Lee Rambo was married to Joseph bologna but she has an affair with George popart and architect and
Kristin Nilsen 1:04:06
do they use the song please tell me they use the song like they license the song in the made for TV movie.
Carolyn Cochrane 1:04:11
I'm gonna say yes. Okay. Because how can they not
Unknown Speaker 1:04:25
love him
Kristin Nilsen 1:04:40
is breaking time between two levels
Carolyn Cochrane 1:04:46
right and I'm gonna just transition into my other naughty songs. So we were just talking about naughty another one from 1977 that I loved was do you want to make love? Oh Do I just want to fool around the round like I could sing make love at the top of my lungs if I wanted to? Yes
Kristin Nilsen 1:05:08
Peter was scandalized. By by MIT by fool around like I thought the fooling around well yeah
Carolyn Cochrane 1:05:12
because then it went but we got to sing about it. I mean we there was no like, you know trying to guess what they were talking about. We knew exactly when making love or are we one night stand in it you know? Fooling around
Unknown Speaker 1:05:44
Do you want to make
Michelle Newman 1:05:51
a difference between Are you going to marry me or are you don portrait of a teenage runaway in Okay, so, one of my for my runners up list. This one came this close to making my top three. Also, I mentioned it. This is one of those weird songs that gives me a lump in my throat. So I know I mentioned this at the end of ours sad songs that make you cry. Because this shouldn't be a song that makes you cry, but it does. And it's the opening of the song always gives me a lump in my throat and that's Dancing Queen by Abba. And just that makes me get tingly but like I have a weird feeling in my stomach and my throat gets really tight. Yeah, so I don't know what it is about that
Kristin Nilsen 1:06:31
that you have a crush on ABA.
Michelle Newman 1:06:33
It's a huge favorite of mine my whole life. But that as it turns out 1977 So I got
Kristin Nilsen 1:06:40
and I think we all I think one reason that it that it was so exciting for us is that we were identifying ourselves as dancing queens. So I'm a dancing queen. You're a dancing queen. We're all dancing queen
Carolyn Cochrane 1:06:53
heroine is not a dancer
Kristin Nilsen 1:07:26
Okay, another one that I love from 1977 Oh, this could be the most joyful breakup song ever written. And that is easy by the Commodores. Easy like Sunday morning, right? Like doesn't just give you all the fields and you just like looking out at a beautiful lake and a mountain scene and got your warm cup of coffee. You're easy like Sunday morning.
Michelle Newman 1:07:52
I kind of want it to be raining when it's rainy.
Kristin Nilsen 1:07:56
But what we get is that is the first line. I know it sounds funny, but I just can't stand the pain. Girl. I'm leaving you tomorrow. But he's liberated. He's liberated. He's like I'm not doing this anymore. I'm not letting you take me down. They
Michelle Newman 1:08:15
weren't just so smooth and everything they did in a way they live their lives. I would bet that if he was breaking up with someone that's how he would deliver it.
Carolyn Cochrane 1:08:24
But I'm really not know
Michelle Newman 1:08:29
that's how he would deliver bad news to people. Yeah,
Kristin Nilsen 1:08:32
it's a fantastic line is so utterly singable and you just like do it it sounds sexy
Michelle Newman 1:08:39
it's almost like I know I hate you but please don't
Kristin Nilsen 1:08:42
really come on line or get along but oh my god. Oh, it's such a happy happy breakup song and that song then paved the way for still and three times a lady and say love right? They had such good ballads I love that song
Carolyn Cochrane 1:09:00
I love still
Kristin Nilsen 1:09:03
gives me goosebumps it gives me goosebumps sounds
Unknown Speaker 1:09:16
leaving you Samira seems to me eager you're done all you see a big stone and yeah
Unknown Speaker 1:09:45
easy like Sunday morning
Kristin Nilsen 1:09:49
Do you know the Commodores got their name? Sorry, just sprung that on you. Are they sailing and they're not Commodores. They're not nautical in any way. shape or form. They could not there were like seven of them or something and they couldn't decide. So all right, we're gonna just do this randomly. They took a dictionary and they threw it up in the air, and it landed face up and then they just did like a blind finger point to a word. And their finger was really, really close to the word commode. But they're like, How about the one just down there? How about Commodore? Let's be the Commodores. Oh, that's
Carolyn Cochrane 1:10:21
a great story. Great if it was true, because it almost seems too good to be true, but I'm going with it. Oh, and
Kristin Nilsen 1:10:28
that what about brick house? What a women
Unknown Speaker 1:10:40
she might
Carolyn Cochrane 1:10:49
look about another naughty song that you're not because my parents had to explain to me what that meant. Like, yeah, those numbers
Michelle Newman 1:10:56
3025 I don't know. I don't even know the lyrics to that song. So I'm not gonna I do not know. Well,
Kristin Nilsen 1:11:02
you just know she's a brick cow.
Carolyn Cochrane 1:11:05
Oh, yes. Christian.
Michelle Newman 1:11:06
Isn't that the one that you? That was your number one rollerskating song?
Kristin Nilsen 1:11:09
Oh, it was I think it was one. It wasn't my number one that was a yogi. But this is one of my favorites. And it was where I learned what 2436 24 meant. And so then I was like, Oh, is that what I'm going for? Like? Is that what I'm aiming for? I know. Thanks, Lana. Richie.
Carolyn Cochrane 1:11:25
Thanks my mom having to explain that that's kind of what that meant. Well, what happened as I was doing again, getting prepared for this episode was realizing that 77 was a big year for me. Because there are two songs when I hear them that I get the sense of dread or there probably is more than two but one is when I need you by the Osage Leo's area Claus my
doll got us and then slow dancing also known as Swain to the music by Johnny river so dancin
Speaker 1 1:12:13
to slow dance just mean slow dance sway to use it.
Kristin Nilsen 1:12:29
That's not Leo Sayer. I thought that was Leo say
Carolyn Cochrane 1:12:31
no, that's Johnny rivers. Oh, okay. And I can tell you the songs and why they give me this sense of dread because they played at the boy or girl parties that I would go to Oh, my, those parties that I desperately wanted to be invited to. And then had this anticipatory dread leading up to them. Like, I didn't want to be off the list. But I also didn't want to go here. Yes, because we played spin the bottle, and seven minutes in heaven. And those songs were the backdrop to those moments that and I'm sorry, when you're the tallest girl and you're dancing, slow dancing, like this was one of the shortest boys, if your arms are down here like this, it's kind of humiliating, and then you spin the bottle and you know, you're gonna have to go in that closet was Scott Shafer. And you know, really, you don't know what you're gonna do in the closet. What does he expect of me? I know. And I just remember, I think there was a quick little, maybe kiss and then we just talked until people were like, Thank God to come out.
Michelle Newman 1:13:32
Okay, well, I have I'm gonna give you two of my runners up in a row quickly, because my memory of them is kind of the same. So it's strawberry letter 23 by the brothers Johnson, and sweet talk and woman by Elo. And the reason the songs are really memorable to me is because I don't know if it was me or my sister, but we had one of us, or both of us, I don't know, had the 40 fives and played them constantly. And I still own strawberry letter 23. But it's cracked all the way down the middle. Like you can't play it, but I still I've held on to it. And I love those two songs to me just sort of epitomize third grade for me.
Kristin Nilsen 1:14:10
I love the little dings in strawberry letter. 23 words like thing
Michelle Newman 1:14:13
bing, bing, bing naming the naming is such a great song.
Kristin Nilsen 1:14:18
There's one last song that I want to mention, and that is Dance, Dance Dance, parentheses. Yowza. Yeah, it was a yell by sheep
written by Nile Rodgers, Nile Rodgers, who by the way is everywhere in 2022. He's trapped. He's opening for Duran Duran, he's the producer for everyone. He has been the producer for everyone, forever. It's crazy. And this song, this is my memory of this song. When I was in fourth grade, we were not going on any field trips when Mr. Foster's class was going going on a field trip and Miss Barry's class was going on a field trip and I'm complaining about it. My dad was like, why don't you write a petition and present it to your teacher? So my dad helped me write a petition saying what the hell, we're not going on any field trips. And I, I can't believe I did this. And I brought it up to her desk and I laid it out for her and I let her read it and I'd gotten the all the everybody in the class signed it, the whole class, signed it. And then we went on a field trip, we went on a picnic to Como Park. And so we're standing at Como Park in the field trip that I bitched about, and we're roasting weenies over the park fields. Yeah, no, I honestly I was a little disappointed. I was talking about like, girls yell or skating or something not roasting weenies at the park. And so I'm holding my stick roasting my weenie and I hear off in the distance. And I am I feel a physical poll. Like I have to go find the song. What is this song? And I'm just like, it's like, I'm squeezing my weenie sticks. So like, this is the field trip that you wanted. Don't leave, don't leave. And this was not an unusual thing. For me. It was the same when I would go to the Midway at the State Fair where all the rides are. And I would be pulled toward a ride depending on what song they were playing. And generally the songs being played on the rides at the State Fair. Were some sort of disco r&b Like something with a real dance beat to it. And I can't I'm like I'm helpless. I'm just like the little string pulling on my chest. I gotta go find the yatta yatta yatta
Michelle Newman 1:16:41
just trans. Like,
Carolyn Cochrane 1:16:42
did you find it? No, I didn't mean oh, this is true. Yeah, you were squeezing that we need business. Well, I will just add that my least favorite song of all time? Oh, this day. I mentioned this. maybe I misheard lyrics or sad songs. I don't know. I hate the song. And it was a 1977 songs. And that would be Hotel California. Because there's nothing scarier than going disclaimer.
Kristin Nilsen 1:17:12
Carolyn, these are Carolyn's feelings. They do not represent the feelings of the pop culture Preservation Society.
Carolyn Cochrane 1:17:19
I'm sorry, you can go into this hotel but you can never leave it like that is super scary. I'm sorry. That visual I even could picture sorry, the desk with like the hotel clerk sitting and and then I'm going up to and they're giving me a key. And I'm realizing I'm going to take this key. I'm never gonna leave like this. Lobby. This is the best way to go about it. Yeah. So I'm sorry, that song. Never liked it still don't like it. And it was from 1977.
Kristin Nilsen 1:17:59
You can check out I do think that you either love Hotel California or you hate it. And it's so
Carolyn Cochrane 1:18:09
long to Yeah, you're not the only one.
Michelle Newman 1:18:12
Well, can I just something kind of cute. I asked my husband when I was telling him about this episode. But I gave him the list of the top 100 songs from 1977 and said you have to pick your three. And one of his very first choices was the theme from Star Wars. Because that movie meant so much to him. It still does. And I loved it. It was so exciting to hear it. Yeah, it was so exciting to hear it on the radio. Because you know you had the instrumentals on the radio, like we said, So Carolyn has other ones where your your picks to one was Lucille actually I think is one of the others was Hotel California. Sorry, but
Kristin Nilsen 1:18:48
yeah, love it or hate it, love it or hate it. It's the perfect example of when we talk about the songs from our childhoods. We're talking about so much more than songs that were just good or bad. It gets very emotional, even if it's just because you like something so much, or because it gives you that funny feeling when you hear it for seemingly no apparent reason. But that funny feeling might be you saying hello to your younger self for just a split second. Right? It makes me I know, and that makes it very hard to stop this conversation. It is impossible to include every song that stirs something inside us. We could go on like this for hours seriously. But now I'm going to hand it over to you the listeners. Next time you were chatting with someone. It's your partner, your coworker, a neighbor, whatever. Ask them if they remember what their favorite song was in 1977, which is me taking this awesome feeling that we have right now and giving it to you. Thank you so much for listening, and we'll see you next time.
Carolyn Cochrane 1:19:51
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Michelle Newman 1:20:21
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Kristin Nilsen 1:20:31
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Michelle Newman 1:20:35
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Kristin Nilsen 1:21:25
In the meantime, let's raise our glasses for a toast courtesy of the cast of Three's Company to good times, to Happy
Carolyn Cochrane 1:21:33
Days to Little House on the Prairie cheer it's crazy.
Kristin Nilsen 1:21:37
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