PCPS Town Hall: We Answer YOUR Burning Questions
Kristin Nilsen 0:00
Okay, so my overrated, ooh. This is super controversial. I'm gonna get hate mail for this one. I'm gonna go with the extremely controversial choice and say, Hello
Speaker 1 0:11
World. It's a song that we're singing. Come on, get happy. Whole lot of love is what we'll be bringing we'll make you happy.
Carolyn Cochrane 0:27
Welcome to the pop culture Preservation Society, the podcast for people born in the big wheel generation who can still feel the burn of the metal playground slide on the backs of their thoughts.
Kristin Nilsen 0:37
We believe our Gen X childhoods gave us unforgettable songs, stories, characters and images, and if we don't talk about them, they'll disappear, like Marshall will and Holly on a routine expedition.
Michelle Newman 0:48
And today, we're holding another PCPs town hall to let you know what life's been like lately, and to answer some of your burning questions,
Carolyn Cochrane 0:58
I'm Carolyn,
Michelle Newman 0:59
I'm Kristen, and I'm Michelle, and we are your pop culture preservationists.
Carolyn Cochrane 1:06
Hear ye. Hear ye. This episode of the pop culture Preservation Society Town Hall is now in session. Welcome everyone to where we answer the tough questions that you want to know about, like what our favorite Saturday morning cartoon was, who would play us in a PCPs made for TV movie, or if the three of us would have been friends in fourth grade? The
Kristin Nilsen 1:30
big stuff, the big stuff, we're answering the big questions right now. That
Michelle Newman 1:34
one was a doozy, though.
Kristin Nilsen 1:36
That was heavy. Yeah, that was heavy.
Carolyn Cochrane 1:39
What episode number was that? Michelle Carolyn, no
Michelle Newman 1:42
fact checking. Okay, sorry.
Carolyn Cochrane 1:44
So I go back to our first town hall meeting, and yes, find out the answers to those hard hitting questions. I
Kristin Nilsen 1:50
mean, talking about Sigmund and the sea monsters is one thing, but talking about would you be friends in fourth grade is another? And for those of you who didn't listen to that, the answer may not be what you think, but we're still friends. So it turns out that you guys like these kinds of episodes where we share a little bit more about ourselves, and you send us questions all the time. What we've learned is that being in somebody's ears is a very intimate experience, and it leads you to wanting to know more about us. And so every other season or so, we've taken your questions and we've answered them for you in an episode, and truthfully, we love it. We even learn things about each other that we didn't know. Yeah, that's my favorite part. And so today, that is what we are doing, but we'll also be filling you in on our schedule through the end of the year, as well as addressing a few other housekeeping items,
Michelle Newman 2:42
that's right and but before we get to all of that, something else we've all found surprisingly therapeutic over the past almost four years is how we've kind of unintentionally but organically shared core parts of our lives with you. Many times, our episodes get really personal, and we share family memories or situations with you that just naturally flow out. It's kind of like weekly group therapy, where several 1000 of you are just silent
Kristin Nilsen 3:13
participants. It's very validating, right?
Carolyn Cochrane 3:16
I was remembering when we met some of our PCPs followers, I think it was in New York, and my sister was with us, and so many people went up to my sister and they were like, I'm so sorry, Ronnie. You know the stories I've shared about her, they were feeling sorry for her, and just wanted to let her know that they were kind of on her side. And a few things well, like
Kristin Nilsen 3:36
they know when Ronnie got her period. Sorry, Ronnie knows. Oh, oh, my
Michelle Newman 3:43
god, seriously, yeah, I mean, for real long time, listeners know a lot about our childhoods and our families, and so it's for that reason and because my story will change drastically going forward that I want to share with all of you, that at the end of August, I lost my mom, and I'm the first one of the three of us to lose my mom, and so this is new territory for all three of us, right? And you guys know I've been really transparent on here about my complicated and often chaotic childhood, too transparent sometimes, but one thing I've always relayed, and that I really, really hope has come across, is that my mom loved me and my sister fiercely and that despite all the upheaval and unpredictability in my childhood, I never for one moment, felt anything less than adored. She was my best friend during my childhood and even in my young adulthood, and losing her was my. Absolute worst fear ever. So now that it's happened, and she was in poor health, so I really hope she's in a peaceful place now where she's not hurting, but now that it's happened, you guys, it's hard to reconcile little Michelle's anguish and present day Michelle's because they're both different, but they're both the same. Does that make sense 100%
Kristin Nilsen 5:27
it's a life changing event when anyone loses a parent. But Michelle's story raises the stakes even more, because, like you said, we all know how your growing up years were challenging and how those years shaped you, and all of that is connected to our parents. For all of us, it leaves a lot on the table. There's so much grief. There's for so many things. It's it's very, very heavy. And since we are a podcast that talks about growing up, this event adds another layer of of intensity and and personal. I mean, it personal. English for Michelle, no,
Michelle Newman 6:07
it does. And I wanted to say is, I know you guys sometimes give me crap for always getting all the toys and all the stuff that's right, but you guys, that is honestly not how I felt loved by my mom. It's things like, like, how should lightly scratch my arms or my legs or my scalp with her really long fingernails, she always had long red fingernails, like trademark Jeannie, right? But she'd do that before I went to sleep every night, or whenever I asked, we could be in the car, and I could throw my arm over and ask her to scratch my my arm. She did it with my girls, too. Or just the way, every single holiday and birthday was special and not at all because of the gifts. I can't even remember what I got for birthdays, but the thought that she would put into every birthday party, like if I wanted to go roller skating, you know, this is before invitations where you bought them at Hallmark, or maybe you did buy them at Hallmark, or whatever, but my mom would be up all night cutting out roller skates shapes from construction paper and gluing little beads on the wheels, and, you know, writing in her handwriting, and I still have some of those invitations. And then the birthday cake would be shaped like a roller skate, and everything would be like things like that. That's what I remember, and that's what that's how I felt loved.
Carolyn Cochrane 7:36
Can I just say, Michelle, this podcast would not be what it is without your mom, without her, no honestly, I'm talking about all the things that she saved, again, a testament to how much she loved you guys, it was the memories associated with those not just the toys, but that you know, the papers, the report cards. When you share with us those things, it brings a flood of memories to me and our social media. We have so much to thank your mom for, because those are real things. I'm so grateful for your mom and for her sharing. That's like she lives on in our podcast through all of those. Yeah,
Kristin Nilsen 8:15
that's true. Carolyn, yeah, well,
Michelle Newman 8:18
that's funny. You say that in in September, I went to Texas to help my sister go through all the things, I mean, capital letters, all the things I mean, I've told you and Carolyn, you just, you just shared it, how the woman kept absolutely everything to the point of insanity. You guys, we found about, not about we counted. We found 25 those long under the bed boxes. They were crammed full where they wouldn't even close. Of every piece of construction paper art we'd ever done, every greeting card, some from the early 1900s from her grandmother to her young mother, old school papers, every little scrapped note we wrote her on, like a torn envelope that said something as silly as like, Mother, I'm working until six. I clean my room and vacuum the living room. You know, I'll be home at 10. I even found, wait for it, my valentines and candy from fourth grade. So I'd like right now to publicly thank Ms Toth for that cookie, because, by the way, it kept its form
Kristin Nilsen 9:22
for 45 years. My god, she kept the cookie. So.
Michelle Newman 9:26
So even though Carolyn, yes, we can say we're very thankful for much of what she kept, some of the stuff, my sister and I are like, good, holy, gracious. What is this? But I will say this was awesome. We found her diaries from seventh to ninth grade. This is in the 50s, and my sister and I were dying. I was doing dramatic readings of all these entries, the drama and the saga of her and the love of her life, Ryan Chalmers. And if anyone's out there who's related to him, I'm sorry, but he was a CAD because. Little C, A, D, CAD. And I'm using, like, the 50s term to my mom. He came and went, basically treated her like crap, but the drama and the saga is real. You guys. She wrote every single day for three years, seventh, eighth and ninth grade. I have them all at home. They're here in my guest bedroom. I'm definitely going to do something with this. I don't know what, yet it'll come to me. You guys, she saved every school notebook she'd had, and I have all her slam books from the 1950s it's amazing. My sister and I were laughing so hard, but at the same time, then we were crying real tears that she wasn't there to go through all those with us. She would have loved it. And we're like, did she even know where? You know, she had so much stuff. Did she even know where they were? I don't know. But then things like every single Barbra Streisand Album that has ever been put out, I now have, and I checked them back on the airplane. I don't even like Barbra Streisand because I was oversaturated with Barbra Streisand as a kid, as you now know, because there's but I could not let she loved Barbara so much, so so much. You know my my dear friend Lisa. You guys have heard me talk about Lisa on the podcast, who was so close with my mom too, was just absolutely grief stricken as well. We talked for three hours like the day after my mom died, and I said something about how I was so worried always, the past few years, that Barbara Streisand was going to die, and like how my mom was going to handle that. My friend Lisa, this is one reason I love her. She goes well, if there's there's a bright spot in it, Barbara outlived your mom.
Kristin Nilsen 11:38
Cheer up. Oh, I love you. Lisa Gen Xers, are feeling you so hard right now, because this is where we live, right? It's, it's a tragedy when someone loses a parent, and then we have a collective generational tragedy where we're all losing our parents, right? Like this is what's happened to us as a generation, which is why I say, Michelle, people, there are some people right now. This is the whole episode. You are speaking to people who hear you and understand you right now. And I can fear they're all nodding their heads, right,
Michelle Newman 12:11
yeah, thinking. And I have gotten some lovely message from messages from some of our listeners who follow me on Instagram, and I don't it's been you guys. It's been two months today. I just realized last night, and I still don't my sister and I talk about this a lot, we don't know how to grieve. Yet, someone texted me her my mom's best friend since, since I've ever been alive, said, How are you doing with your grief journey? And I said, I fine, but then I'm like, No, I don't know that I've actually done it. I don't know it's a lot. I
Carolyn Cochrane 12:47
don't think there is a recipe, right? You know, exact steps of a person's grief journey. They're all unique and different. And again, I think because of this podcast and our social media, all that you're going to have a different journey than a lot of people would have, only because we're, you're going to be revisiting a lot of, you know, those memories. And so it is different, I can say, from my dad's, you know, his not being here, and the things I've shared with you guys, it's, it's brought up some things. So there is another kind of grief, but yet there's a joy. And there aren't really any words to describe it, but I'm so glad that you have, well, this keeps them
Michelle Newman 13:28
alive. I think, right, yeah, I know that. When I was in Texas, Carolyn and I was listeners, I was texting Carolyn and Kristen pictures, my sister, like, found her Mrs. Beasley doll and, you know, in a box. And we found some old, a lot of old things my mom had made for us, and just fun toys. I found a lot of things that we've talked about on the podcast. And I was like, Look, I found it. And Carolyn, you did say, you said you were so glad that we had this podcast, because it just made some of those things even more meaningful than maybe they would have been before, and I definitely agree with that. I think I'm still in the disbelief. I can't believe my mom's gone. You guys, I don't know if my entire life I called her, and my entire life, she answered the phone the same way when she knew it was me, she said, Hi sweetheart, and I I can't believe I'm not gonna hear that again. You know, I can't believe I'm not gonna hear say Hi sweetheart, and I have a sweetheart. And I have old voicemails, and that's how she'll start a voicemail, Hi, sweetheart. I was just, you know, I want to say one last thing, just kind of a tribute to my mom, because I know she would want me to say she's like, Bucha, but it's true, you guys, my mom was so beautiful and just so fancy and stylish. She went to modeling school right after high school. We also found that notebook, like the John powers modeling school notebook with all her notes in it and all her portfolio, like her tear sheets and stuff. She could have totally made it too, by the way, but she married my dad when she had. Has turned 20. And then had my sister at just 20, almost 22 not quite 22 anyway, she was the woman who wore her giant fall, you know, the hair, the wig fall and full makeup, with false eyelashes on to give birth. She made herself the most stunning and groovy outfits. And I thought I would share some photos of her in this week's Weekly Reader, if that's all right with you guys, because I know she would love that. Like photos from like, the late 60s and 70s when I was in Texas. This is last funny story. But when I was in Texas, I was also constantly texting our good friend Shane photos because he became obsessed with 1960s and 70s. Mom, my mom, and there's one pic of my mom and dad and sister when my sister was just a baby. So this has to be in like 1965 and my mom has on, she had very long hair, but she had on a very short wig, like Twiggy wig, and Shane just text back. They would have been my favorite TV family.
Kristin Nilsen 15:59
Okay, I love this category of 70s mom, like, that's a whole thing to study. Is
Michelle Newman 16:05
it is great. And I think all of us, you know, it's fun to go back and look at our 70s mom, but I just
Carolyn Cochrane 16:12
probably think that might be an it might be an episode, season 14,
Michelle Newman 16:16
episode, I'm talking about our groovy mom. So 70s mom, but I want to thank you guys so much for being there for me through all of this and for the podcast. I really do feel it's like what we just talked about. It's because all of this stuff does it keeps my childhood alive, and by keeping my childhood alive, it's going to keep my mom alive so so thank you.
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Love so soft as an easy
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chair, love
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fresh as the morning.
Carolyn Cochrane 16:52
Okay, moving on now to the town hall portion of the episode. You guys, we got such fun questions. So thank you to all of those who answered the call out that we had on Instagram and Facebook. We wish we had time to answer all of them, but alas, we don't. We did choose a few that we felt strongly about. One of the first great questions we got was for us to pick an all time Mount Rushmore of teen heartthrobs, and we decided we were each going to do this individually, and now you'll get to hear who each of us would put on our mount crush more. Oh, hi, Carolyn.
Unknown Speaker 17:38
Give it up for the word play.
Michelle Newman 17:41
I should mention that the person who asked this question did give us the option of, all you know, trying to do this together. Not possible, not we would be here for the next year, and they are, we might still be here. We also want to keep working together. Yeah, remember when we had to
Carolyn Cochrane 17:59
try to pick John also was going to be on it. We had
Kristin Nilsen 18:02
a fight. Was a fist fight. Let's
Michelle Newman 18:05
just do this the easy way. Kristen, yeah, thank you. Go.
Kristin Nilsen 18:08
And I don't know that I'm the best person to go first, because we could be here all night. This is an impossible task. You
Carolyn Cochrane 18:15
had four to pick four.
Kristin Nilsen 18:16
I got four, but that's there are a lot of people to choose from, and we
Carolyn Cochrane 18:21
just don't hear your for the people that didn't make it. Oh shoot. Okay, now go ahead. Well,
Kristin Nilsen 18:26
I'm, I'm, I'm gonna tell you why some people didn't make it in Kristin. Okay, yes, that's right. And of course, what I say today will change tomorrow. So this, these are my choices for the moment. So to make it easier on myself, I eliminated any groups, any bands, because if we're talking biggest heartthrobs of all time, you have to start with the Beatles. But that would look dumb with four faces in one place. Can't fit the faces on but I did use the Beatles as a litmus test, who induced mania, who elicited fainting, Episode episodes. And that leads to my first pick, which is Elvis Presley, and this is hard because I don't have any feelings for Elvis, but I have to recognize what he did, which was inspire mania amongst this new age group of people called teenagers. My next choice is David Cassidy, because the mania was extreme. He had the biggest fan club of all time, outpacing Elvis by a long shot, outpacing the Beatles, outpacing anyone before or since, he exemplified who the modern day teen idol was. Very similarly, I have to put Donnie Osmond up there too, because beautiful in a non threatening way, almost feminine, crying and fainting a nation of broken hearted teens and tweens when he announces his engagement, and he hung on to that teen idol status longer than most, and he still capitalizes on that teen idol status today without it being cheesy or sad. So kudos to you, Donnie. You get to be on Mount crushmore, I would like to add. Get Michael Jackson to the next spot, but that is complicated. He certainly created hysteria. People's love for him was long lasting, never ending, including to today. But the demons that he harbored and the damage that he allegedly did to people is so sad. It's so and so it feels exploitive to give him the spot so he's not he's not going up there. I'm sorry, Michael, and so I will pivot instead to James Dean. This is kind of a surprise pick for me. I know Carolyn's face just went, what? But hear me out.
Michelle Newman 20:34
Boy, I'd like to see him chiseled in stone, though.
Kristin Nilsen 20:40
Good point. That's
Michelle Newman 20:41
how I should have done mine. Just who would
Kristin Nilsen 20:45
golden stone? James Dean is also legendary in that he inspired, that a mania that that remained even after he died, college students in the 80s were still putting posters of James Dean on their wall. People would claim to be true, right? Right?
Michelle Newman 21:02
I had a, I had the giant black and white future of James Dean on my freshman college, normal, that
Kristin Nilsen 21:07
is meaningful, that is meaningful. And he, along with Elvis, began this idea of teens being a distinct group with a distinct need to fall in love, and perhaps falling in love with someone you'll never actually meet was a nice way to start. So thank you. James Dean, okay, my last spot, this
Michelle Newman 21:24
would be controversial
Kristin Nilsen 21:24
today.
Carolyn Cochrane 21:25
You only have four fuck oh no,
Kristin Nilsen 21:29
oh no, I put a person on Mount crash. More. Okay, all right, well, let me just tell you,
Carolyn Cochrane 21:37
in case Donnie doesn't give you the rights for his like,
Michelle Newman 21:42
if in case any of these cannot fulfill their duty, that's right. Person gets to be carved in the stone,
Kristin Nilsen 21:48
right? And that is Justin Bieber on the end. He's just a little spot, right? Not the Justin Bieber of today, but the 22,009 version, little 14 year old Justin Bieber, because with the hair you guys, he woke the sleeping giant, his meteoric rise, which started on YouTube and then spread like a contagion, was something we hadn't seen for a really long time, and That was this almost universal falling in love with an adorable little sprite by an entire culture.
Michelle Newman 22:26
Well, maybe you can just be a statue of him at the base of Mount crushmore as a welcome. Yeah, he's
Kristin Nilsen 22:35
the welcoming guy. I do. I like that.
Michelle Newman 22:37
Okay. Well, this is going to be super short, because basically, yeah,
Kristin Nilsen 22:43
I just have,
Michelle Newman 22:49
I just have the members of Duran. Duran, no, I'm just kidding, because she basically did all my research for me. Because here's how I when I thought all time, Mount Rushmore, crush more, I wanted to do different eras of all time, crushes, even though two you're going to hear are basically the same decade. I don't care. I started with Elvis, everybody rewind about four minutes and listen to questions. That's why then I did David Cassidy. Now Rewind a few more minutes and listen to questions. So I have Elvis, I have David Cassidy, I have Sean Cassidy, just because in my generation, you can't deny his his crush ability, that he needs to be on Mount crush more. And then I went all the way to my girls era, and I included Harry Styles on the Mount crush more. So my mountain is Elvis, David Sean, and Harry, I don't remember anything taking the girls by storm like One Direction did. And I was so excited to be able to be part of that with my older daughter, my 29 year old, because we were, I mean, I will just never forget the day she came and said, Mom, look at this cute new group from England, and watch how cute this video is. I'm, like, obsessed with them, and it was the video for what makes you beautiful. Makes You Beautiful. That's how I picked him. Is that I just didn't, I got to be sort of part of that with her. But I also had, didn't remember anybody kind of, you know, coming in with such force in a long time,
Kristin Nilsen 24:14
yeah, and capturing people to that degree when your kid walks in the door, yeah,
Michelle Newman 24:20
but you are right. Justin, Justin Bieber, would have been that as well.
Kristin Nilsen 24:23
Just prior, just prior, yeah,
Michelle Newman 24:25
okay,
Carolyn Cochrane 24:26
how about that? Everybody? Okay, so, of course, when I was presented with this question, I thought, okay, there's a few ways I could go here, right? Like, am I on the National Parks Board? And I'm sitting around and I'm thinking like, who's gonna be on there? So instead of looking at all time in terms of decades and how we would define crush, I just decided I was gonna pick my all time mount crush more. I just went right to the source. Okay, when choosing my heart throbs. And luckily, I have that source. Course, it is my middle school band folder. Oh, my God, okay, you guys. It is filled with all of the posters and the Tiger Beat pages that literally were hanging on my walls when we packed up our house to move from Texas to New Jersey. This was the summer of 1978 and I was 12, about to turn 13, so literally, I took what was on my walls, I put it in this oversized clarinet band folder from West Memorial Junior High Symphonic Band. That's the higher band I was in the top, yeah, and then I didn't put them back on my walls when we moved to New Jersey, so they stayed in this folder just as they came off my wall. Okay, so it's basically a time capsule of my middle school crushes, believe it or not, I still had some Donnie in there. So Donnie, I agree with all of you. How can we not have Donnie on there? Sean, of course, I'm not going to elaborate on all that we know how we love
Kristin Nilsen 25:52
she doesn't even need a last name. No, he doesn't. No,
Carolyn Cochrane 25:55
this guy needs all three names, of course, though, and he would be James.
Michelle Newman 26:03
You know what? Pause for a second. I guarantee you, we have so many listeners that just right when you say right, said it with you as well. Yeah,
Carolyn Cochrane 26:13
that's right now out of left field. But if I'm really sticking to my criteria and the number of pages and stuff in my folder. Here we go, guys, I'm gonna have Lance Kerwin.
Kristin Nilsen 26:31
We've never talked about
Carolyn Cochrane 26:32
this. I know listeners.
I love that bowl cut. It makes me it makes my nipples. I love those bold cuts. Hence, there's someone else in my life who would have had a bowl cut at that point in his life, but that would be my husband. But here's the deal you guys, we are going to do a little time for Lance Kerwin next season, because I really hope we do our James at 50. Yeah, we do our James, oh yeah. We have to Yes. And really, that's how he got on my radar, that and whatever, the fastest boy in the world, or whatever, the one where he wet his pants, and it was like Michael Landon, so
Michelle Newman 27:20
sad though, because we're laughing, but he had to run home to get the sheets. And
Carolyn Cochrane 27:26
growing up, he had a really mean mom, and that's to be really fast, and grew out his hair, and they shamed him for winning the bedroom.
Michelle Newman 27:33
So rip, didn't he just die?
Carolyn Cochrane 27:37
He was one of our teen idols that, you know, they didn't treat well those guys in the 70s, and they did not, some of them have the best adulthood. So yes, rest in peace. Lance Carolyn, but you are memorialized.
Kristin Nilsen 27:53
I love that. Mount Carolyn, that is fantastic. Oh my god. And I want to see like, Who do we know, who's an artist? Because I want them to draw that.
Michelle Newman 28:03
You guys, this is a great idea. We all like our own Mount crushmore to put in our office somewhere. Okay, any other who's listening, who's a good artist, and I know we have someone, you will get a gift if you send us these three Mount crushmores,
Carolyn Cochrane 28:19
please do it. They're like 1970s version, when they were the crush, like, Yes, don't do Lance Kerwin of the
Kristin Nilsen 28:25
when he's Yeah, right,
Michelle Newman 28:27
and Kristen and I, we also, and Kristen and I do not want 1975 Elvis.
Kristin Nilsen 28:33
Oh, no, no, no, no. I want Ed Sullivan. Elvis,
Michelle Newman 28:39
yeah, yeah. Oh my
Unknown Speaker 28:42
god, guys, that was fun.
Michelle Newman 28:43
This is why we love the town halls. I mean, at least we do. I don't know what the list they're feeling right now. We're having a great time.
Kristin Nilsen 28:52
Okay, here, this is sort of in the same category. It's but it's podcast oriented. This is a great question, who's the interview on the top of your bucket list? Yeah, because we didn't really intend to be an interview podcast, but when you get opportunities, you take them, and we've talked to some amazing people, I think we've already talked to the number one person. So basically, this is like, who's your number two person that you would like to talk to? Because Sean Cassidy was the number one bucket list item, and we've talked to him several times. So Michelle, who would you? Who's your next person? Yeah, we're buds.
Michelle Newman 29:27
I think that a lot of you that know me, and especially follow my Instagram, my own Instagram, y'all are gonna think I'm gonna say Rob Lowe, and you, some of you might remember I even put when I got to meet him, he was on my Christmas card that year in the space where it would be the picture of me and my husband. It was me and Rob Lowe, but you're wrong. You're wrong. It's the other one you're all gonna think, and that is one Mr. Simon labon, I would like birthday was yesterday, by the way. Happy birthday. Simon, you guys, However, having said that, if we ever got to speak to Simon labon, I would die, and that would be really sad, because then you guys would be mourning, and then we would be laughing, people, it doesn't work. It would be sad, and I would die. I would completely stroke out. I would have a physiological reaction so hard that my heart would stop beating. So I'm going to just change it to someone like, I don't know, Molly, real
Kristin Nilsen 30:27
sneaky. Wouldn't
Michelle Newman 30:27
that be kind of fun, like she would be, I don't know, what are the facts of life? Girls, how about well, she was a Facts of Life. Girl, remember Molly? Yes,
Kristin Nilsen 30:35
with her bowl cut. Rises again.
Michelle Newman 30:39
Carolyn, what about you? And
Carolyn Cochrane 30:41
this was really tough for me, so I did a little Kristen finagling, and I have my a female and a male.
Kristin Nilsen 30:47
Okay, okay, that counts. Okay, two buckets. You have two buckets. I
Carolyn Cochrane 30:51
have two buckets. Yeah. So my female would be Brooke Shields. I would love to talk to Brooke Shields and my male, lucky for you, Michelle is Rob Lowe, and I tell you because I think they, of course, hugely impacted us in the 80s, but yet they've also kind of evolved as we have from the 80s, and they are really leaning into who they are now. So it would be really cool to talk to them about that, you know, transition and how they see life in our 60s now. So I think we'd have a really good chat with them, and it'd be really fun to look at Rob Lowe that we look at each other on for a while. So Rob
Kristin Nilsen 31:31
would be that would be a lovely literally love to have you literally.
So Carolyn and Michelle will tell you that interviews are not my favorite part of this podcast for a lot of reasons, but mostly because this isn't a celebrity podcast. It's a podcast about our culture at a certain moment in time and what it meant to us as a generation. Is really a podcast about us, right? And that's what I like talking about. Not that I haven't been super excited to hang out with Sean Cassidy and Melissa Gilbert. That's been like the joy of a lifetime. It's just not the interviews that I dream about, but that being said, I do have a bee in my bonnet right now that I think speaks to both of these things. I have become a big fan of a show on HGTV starring the reluctant new kid on the block, Jonathan Knight and so in his time off from being a new kid, he restores historic New England farmhouses or farmhouses. And from that, and then from that came a show called farmhouse fixer, which my husband, I call farmhouse fixer because he's still very deep in his New England accent,
Michelle Newman 32:40
that Don cat, that death
Kristin Nilsen 32:42
Don cat. So John Knight collabs with people on their homes and always buys them an animal as a gift, like a donkey or a herd of goats or something like that. But here's my idea. Here's my idea, which is not mine, by the way. It was suggested to us by our friend Jen, who is a huge blockhead, so John is notoriously prickly about his teen idol status. He's not super comfortable being famous. He doesn't like to look in the rear view mirror and pretend that he's still 15, and all the girls love him. He's not comfortable with that, but he is a Gen Xer in his 50s, just like the rest of us. So here's Jen's idea, we approach John about coming on the pop culture Preservation Society to talk about finding your passion in your 50s. He is no has been right. He is showing the world who he really is on this show, which is a dyed in the wool New Englander who loves animals and likes to work with his hands. That's who he is on this show. Not a new kid. He's not a new kid on this show at all. And in fact, it almost never comes up, and that's what I want to talk to him about, and how that contrasts with his role as an 80s heartthrob. I think we could be friends with John Knight.
Michelle Newman 33:53
I think that's a great idea. And I think that we speak to that too, because we found our new passion in our 50s. And I also think that that crosses into Carolyn's first bucket list item, because Brooke Shields is doing the same thing, where she's really found this new passion of embracing life. Post, you know, 55 really, and being just kind of being really authentic. And that's that with your physical appearance, or with you do in your life, and that's really what we're about as well. So I think we could do that, you guys.
Kristin Nilsen 34:24
That's exactly part
Carolyn Cochrane 34:25
of manifest that,
Kristin Nilsen 34:27
yes,
Michelle Newman 34:34
in your opinion, what is the most overrated and underrated TV show of the 70s and 80s. Carolyn, it's
Carolyn Cochrane 34:42
hard. This was hard.
Kristin Nilsen 34:45
This is really hard.
Carolyn Cochrane 34:45
I'm gonna start with my most underrated. Okay, so of course I could say Apple's way. You've heard me pine over my love for that show, and it really was underrated. But I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna go with the show that gave me my. First adult crush that show was Flamingo Road.
Speaker 2 35:04
Oh, I totally remember that show you
Carolyn Cochrane 35:08
were good. Well, sadly, it only lasted two seasons. But the actor that just, I don't know, grease my loins, I don't know what we might take that up. No, Mark. This is Mark Harmon. You
Unknown Speaker 35:24
guys. Yes,
Carolyn Cochrane 35:25
I love Mark Harmon. I could tell you that he was a football player at USC, and who his sister was and who she married, and, oh, did I love me some? Mark Harmon, he's
Michelle Newman 35:37
still, he is still a older man,
Carolyn Cochrane 35:41
it wasn't long after port demise of Flamingo Road, Morgan Fairchild, I mean, it was a good show anyways, thank you. But then he went on to st elsewhere, which, of course, he was wonderful in. And that show was wonderful. So it was okay.
Kristin Nilsen 35:56
I got grace in those loins, but overrated,
Carolyn Cochrane 36:00
and one that, you know, I just had to kind of pretend I liked, because a lot of people liked it, but it was just too much for me. It was over the top. It was dynasty. I couldn't get on the dynasty bandwidth. I never did. Sorry, everyone I'm going to
Michelle Newman 36:13
be talking about that next season. I actually liked it, but again, that's a show I watched with my mom, so it was like appointment TV that. And I felt kind of big like that in Dallas. You know, I kind of felt like grown up, like I could watch this with right? Sometimes it's
Carolyn Cochrane 36:27
not really the show as much as it's the memories exactly dated with the show and the experience. So, yeah, I had a good experience with Flamingo Road. We
Kristin Nilsen 36:39
all know Carolyn. Oh, okay, for my underrated I'm, I'm gonna go back to the show that only Carolyn and me watched, which is Apple's way.
Carolyn Cochrane 36:53
Well, guess what? You might get something fun for Christmas. It you can't find it anywhere. You cannot find it anywhere. Tempt
Michelle Newman 36:59
me like that. Don't do it. We're still a couple months from Christmas. I gotta forget you said that, or else I'm just it was
Kristin Nilsen 37:05
just so good. Obviously, we're, I mean, we were little children when the show was on, and we're still talking about it, and we're, like, grandmother's age, but, you know, starring Christy McNichol about a family who lives in Iowa and has a house with a water wheel in it. I mean, come on, what we forgot
Carolyn Cochrane 37:21
to say. I just have to chime in here, because I cannot believe we forgot to bring this up when we last time we talked about it. But you know who else was on there? Oh, we talked about him as a crush, and he really was. Was Mr. Vince Van Patten? Yes,
Kristin Nilsen 37:34
with the two socks and everything, yes, he was a cutie. And
Carolyn Cochrane 37:37
Farrah Fawcett had a guest role on Apple's way, and with Vince Van Patten, because he was also a tennis player, for those of us who remember that, and she was on a tennis player, and there was a whole thing. So, yeah, we forgot to mention that was another reason. I'm sure I tuned in.
Kristin Nilsen 37:50
I don't know why this show didn't make it. I mean, with all the Waltons people and little house people out there, this is right up their alley, and I'm sure we went up against Sanford and Son, and that's nothing,
Michelle Newman 38:00
could survive. Yeah,
Kristin Nilsen 38:03
damn Sanford and Son. Okay, so my overrated, oh, this is super controversial. I'm gonna get hate mail for this one. I'm gonna go with the extremely controversial choice and say The Golden Girls. Yeah, I don't mean Yeah. I love Bea Arthur. I love Betty White. I have a very special place in my heart for Rosen island from st Olaf, Minnesota, but Rue McClanahan is just Samantha in Florida. And I don't think it was I don't think it was necessary. And except for the zingers of rose and Sophia. The writing was pretty bad. It was not that good, but obviously it was a show that was needed, you know. And it showed older women having lives which no one ever thought happened. We thought like you, you stopped having your period, and then you died. And it clearly has lasting appeal. And it might be, I'm thinking it might be in the category of so bad it's good a little bit, and that's why it has a cult following. And I would, I know our,
Michelle Newman 39:07
I'm just thinking of our Shane Shane Kristen is going to be sending you Okay, of apology flowers. But
Kristin Nilsen 39:15
here's the thing I understand, right? Like I would never argue that it doesn't deserve the attention that it gets because it's hitting a nerve and that means something. I'm just saying it's not Shakespeare.
Carolyn Cochrane 39:27
That's all
Michelle Newman 39:31
like apples way,
Kristin Nilsen 39:34
that's Shakespeare, right? Earl Hamner is Shakespeare, yeah.
Michelle Newman 39:41
Okay, so I understood the question to mean overrated, underrated of the 70s, overrated underrated of the 80s, so I kind of did each decade. And so from my overrated show of the 70s, probably a little controversial, because I know a lot of people love this show, and that's the Dukes of Hazzard. I thought that show was pretty overrated. Yeah. I'm not even going to get into the reasons now why it's not a show that's contemporary. I'm going to even go back to the 70s like I just felt like it was, it was a lot. I didn't get into it underrated for the 70s. I think you guys will agree, and I know a lot of listeners will agree. Is the show family, the show that we all love so much. What a great cast. And again, Christy McNichol and really her growing up, and they really did tackle a lot of important topics and important storylines. I
Kristin Nilsen 40:31
mean, disco, we've
Michelle Newman 40:32
talked a lot like disco, like, yes, we've talked a lot about the, you know, the storyline with her, and life Garrett. And we
Kristin Nilsen 40:39
will do an episode on, but we're gonna do it, you guys. It was important.
Michelle Newman 40:43
The way that she she she really stood up for writing in that episode was really good. She stood up for herself in the 70s, and that was a really big deal. So I would say underrated family for the 80s. My overrated shows. I have two. These shows were wildly popular and I could not stand them. And that would be ALF is one?
Kristin Nilsen 41:10
Oh, I'm kind of with you. Yeah. And two
Michelle Newman 41:12
is the show. Family Matters, I quote, with the whole art. What is that? Said, and we've talked a lot about how shows needed that, like that, that line, that tagline,
Unknown Speaker 41:29
did I do? I
Michelle Newman 41:32
just get, I get, I get a visceral reaction when I see a photo of that character. So, yeah, thank you. But people loved that show and my underrated 80s, I have three, and I'm so excited to share these with you and our listeners, because I wonder if you guys watch these shows. I think we've talked about them maybe, but one is my sister Sam. Did you guys watch my sister Sam? It's so tragic. My mom and I love my in fact, two of these three that I'm going to mention are shows my mom and I loved, but my sister Sam was appointment TV. You guys, that was the cutest show with Mark Herman's wife who, you know, he got to grease her loins. Pam dauber
Carolyn Cochrane 42:17
and still is greasing them. Are they still marrying? Yes, they're one of
Michelle Newman 42:22
the longest, most married? Okay, so anyway, but yes, we all know such a tragic, tragic like I can't even almost look at a still of because that darling girl, I am going to forget her name, and so to make up for that horrible lack of respect, I'm going to put it in this Weekly Reader, because she should not be forgotten, nor her name should be. She was darling. That played the sister, the younger sister, and, yeah, she was, you know, stalker, murdered. Tragically, she opened the door and he shot her in the face. And it's just was one of those things that just disturbed me to no end. And it's just horrible. Okay, so that's my first underrated show. Second is Kate and alley, which I know a lot of listeners loved Kate and Allie. My mom owned all of them. Loved it so much that she owned all of them on DVD and so or VHS. It must have been VHS. Anyway, when my girls would spend the night when they were little, they have seen every episode of Kate and Allie, and then the last one is with our new friend. And you guys know my I'm not going to use the greasing the loins thing here, because that's I just can't but with Greg avaganga, and that's my two dads with Greg avegan and Paul Reiser, that was a really cute show and also groundbreaking, right? I loved that show, so I thought that was underrated. Yeah, that's
Carolyn Cochrane 43:42
a good those are all good choices. Michelle,
Michelle Newman 43:44
thank you job.
Carolyn Cochrane 43:54
Okay, here's the next question, which I'll admit I found a little bit difficult if you could only listen to one song from your childhood for the rest of your life. What would it be Kristen?
Kristin Nilsen 44:06
That's almost an impossible task, because really, what you're saying is all you can listen to is contemporary music, and you can only listen to one song that is not contemporary. What is it that's hard. And so what I did to sort of narrow my choices down, was that I took the the word childhood quite literally, and I decided that the song that I would keep with me is free to be you and me. You.
Speaker 3 44:47
There's a land that I see where the children are free, and I say, it ain't far to this land from where we are.
Carolyn Cochrane 44:57
I would have won the bet in Las Vegas. Spot, you would choose that, but it's an excellent choice. I love that. Don't
Kristin Nilsen 45:04
you think that? I think so too, because you have to choose something that you're is not going to you can't annoy yourself to death, you know, for three or four after three or four, listen, so you do that with Marlo Thomas and the new seekers and a healthy dose of empowerment. And, you know, let's do this, and those drums
Carolyn Cochrane 45:26
in there too.
Kristin Nilsen 45:27
Oh, there's, I'm sure, I'm sure, oh, Banjo, yeah,
Michelle Newman 45:30
Banjo at the beginning. Can't you hear it? Right? That'll
Kristin Nilsen 45:32
perfect things up, yeah? And I don't, and I don't get tired of that song, and it gives me nipple lightning, and I cry, and it makes me jump up and makes me happy. And so I just don't think I would get tired of it, and I think it would be emblematic of a lot of things.
Michelle Newman 45:51
Well, mine was a super easy answer, because I did the same thing you did, Kristen, when I said, I have to make this easier on myself. So I have to go childhood, and I have to go 70s. I have to go before, like 1978 even. And it was so easy for me. And I don't care if I get ridiculed for this, I get ridiculed for my taste of music a lot. I won't get ridiculed by the two of you, no, but this is a song that I've told you many times is still on most playlists I have. I probably hear this song 510, times a week, and I will sing it, and I would put it on repeat and listen to it 20 times every day. And that's top of the world by the carpenters.
Speaker 4 46:42
You such a feelings coming over me. There
Speaker 5 46:48
is wonder in most everything I say, Not a cloud in the sky got the sun in my eyes, and that won't be surprised. Yes,
Unknown Speaker 47:01
it's,
Kristin Nilsen 47:02
that's your walkout music.
Michelle Newman 47:04
It's, it is, and it's just to me. It just, I will smile, I will get don't I have a dopamine hit every time that song comes on. I just feel happy. And it is a happy song. So yes, yeah,
Kristin Nilsen 47:16
that's a good choice. Oh
Carolyn Cochrane 47:17
yes. And I love how you said dopamine hit, because that's exactly what my song does. And here's the thing, you know, I worried, kind of like Kristen did, if, if I chose a song and that's all I could listen to, was I going to either grow bored of it or start to not like it? And then that got me all worried, because there's producing, yes, I don't want to not love them. So when I was choosing my song, I thought, I really I want to pick a song that kind of could fill a lot of buckets, so it could raise my dopamine level. It could bring back some great memories. It was a good song. It was Boppy, all of those things. So ultimately, I chose a song that conjures memories of my entire family singing and laughing. And it's really not a popular hit or anything. It's Olivia Newton, John's the river's too wide. The river's
Speaker 1 48:04
too wide now for crossing, the waters rush too loud, for talking, we never build bridges for walking, because the river's too wide. From
Carolyn Cochrane 48:18
her album, if you love me.
Michelle Newman 48:22
She has the album right here. You guys. Yeah, she kind of went deep cut there too. It is.
Carolyn Cochrane 48:30
It checks all those boxes for my sister and I, and it's like the rivers do what like you can't not like pop and snap her hands. It's just such a great song. It just gives me joy. It's got great lyrics, and I don't think that I would get too tired of it, because it would like I said, it meets different needs at different times. So it's not like, Oh, I just want to think about my family when I want to do that. I could put it on or, oh, I need a poppy song, then I can put that on. So that's why I chose the rivers too wide.
Kristin Nilsen 49:03
That's a good song. I love that
Unknown Speaker 49:06
song. The river's too wide
Speaker 5 49:07
now for crossing, the waters rush too loud for talking. We never build bridges for walking. Okay,
Kristin Nilsen 49:17
this next question is so great. Then there are lots of ways that we could answer this, and I didn't have to think hard at all.
Carolyn Cochrane 49:26
Think hard for you either.
Kristin Nilsen 49:28
Everybody knows. Everybody's gonna know as soon as I say the question, who are each of you in Three's Company?
Michelle Newman 49:40
Yeah, I knew immediately, before I even finished reading the question, even though I really wanted to say Mrs. Roper because I wanted to dress like her. I mean, duh, I'm Janet. I'm reliable, I'm the sensible one, and plus, I get to work in a flower shop, which I don't know if I've ever mentioned it here before, but that was what my best friend Lisa when I was in. Fifth through 20 flower shop, and we played it. That was our dream in life, was to own a flower shop. So I'm Janet. Oh,
Carolyn Cochrane 50:08
I love that. Well, I'm this character. I'm not sure if you all were familiar with this character, this would be crack, okay? Because I'm a combo of Chrissy.
Unknown Speaker 50:20
I didn't know we could do that. We could combine.
Carolyn Cochrane 50:25
Well, I make up my own rules, as Jack would probably do, right? So I'm a combination of them, right? I'm a little, as we've said many times, a little Amelia Bedelia. And I feel Chrissy is very Amelia Bedelia, but I also have the Wit and Wisdom of Jack, I think, and the clever like, I could use my Chrissy in strategic ways. Like, you know, I knew what I was kind of doing most of the time. So yeah, so I am crack. Sorry, that's who I am. That's my reasoning.
Kristin Nilsen 50:59
And there you go. Okay, well, I think at this moment in time, I think there's no doubt that we are all proudly Mrs. Roper, but get me a captain too sweet, right? And the whole Mrs. Roper romp like that's the thing that is that is rising for a reason, right? We're going to do it, we're going to get our curly wig, we're going to get our captain on, we're gonna run down the street. And I think it's so fun to embrace Mrs. Roper at this moment in time. Um, sort of like embracing your your Gen Xs, embracing your age. But in the days of Threes Company, I was a total Janet, which is so on brand for me, right? I never, I never identified with the pretty person. I always identified with the second banana. I always identified with the dark haired person, because the blonde haired person got all the attention and the dark haired person, even though I was a blonde person, it didn't make sense. And I loved Janet. I loved her sensibility. I love her exasperation with Jack and with Chrissy, like with her hands on her hips, like you guys, straighten up, come on. Like I was, felt like I was herding cats. I was always getting people to do the right thing. And yet, she was also super funny, and she could do slapstick. So I have learned over the years how animated I am with my body, like I'm moving right now, and sometimes I look at people, I'm like, You're not moving at all, like you're just standing there saying words. And I'm like, acting it out a little bit as much as I loved Chrissy. I love love. Loved Chrissy, but I identified with Janet super hard.
Speaker 6 52:35
Come and knock on our door, waiting for you.
Michelle Newman 52:47
So our last question comes from Michelle. That's me. I wanted to know this, what is your earliest memory?
Kristin Nilsen 52:57
That's such a good question.
Carolyn Cochrane 52:59
It is such a good question. And mine is, like, multi layered, okay? Because my first memory is sitting in my grandmother's kitchen in New York City and eating ice cream. Okay? I know this is my first memory, because I also have a distinct memory of when I told my parents about this memory I was sharing with my parents. Oh, I remember Granny's kitchen because she had like, a banquet, you know, those like it was like a booth. And I thought that was so cool. And I was saying I remembered this booth and having ice cream, and they insisted that I did not have that memory. They said, There's no way you weren't even two yet. There's no way you could have that memory. You must have seen a photo. And they kept insisting that I didn't have this memory. And that makes me think this was the first time I was kind of being gaslit like, oh my, I did have this memory. And these people were telling me over and over, there's no way you could have this memory. Like, this thing that you know to be true is not true. That has stuck with me. So I know, I know that the other one is my first memory, because my parents insisted there was no way I had that memory, because I would have been too that's
Kristin Nilsen 54:04
interesting. Okay, my first memory, it's extremely distinct. I didn't have to think about it at all, because I've always identified it as my first memory. So my first memory is being carried on my dad's back, in one of those early kind of backpacks, like baby backpacks. This is the pre Bjorn days. We didn't have anything like that, but the we did have these, like wire frame backpacks
Michelle Newman 54:31
made with wiki sticks, little waxy sticks.
Kristin Nilsen 54:39
It's super, super old school, and we're standing on the edge of a ravine with a crowd of people, and we're watching fireworks. And so it would have been the first time I've ever seen fireworks. So I think that's the reason that it stays, because it's I just couldn't believe what I was watching. I just. Couldn't believe it was so it's cemented. I'm in a I'm in a baby backpack. So you know, if you're trying to find out how old I was, I moved from that place when I was three. My brother was born when I was two and a half. But I'm small enough to be in a baby backpack, so I'm guessing I was around 18 months,
Michelle Newman 55:19
and that's how I think of mine. Because I know the house we lived in, I'm two and a half to, like, three and a half in this house, so let's just say it's somewhere in there. So my sister and I shared a bedroom, and we had this lamp that I feel like was maybe kind of popular at the time, so it kind of resembled an old fashioned, like gas lamp that would have had, like, kind of a hurricane on top of it, but there was a light bulb in it, one of the two of us. I think it was my sister, for some reason, had put cotton balls in it. Or maybe it was me, but I think it was my sister, because in my memory, and my sister's listening to this, I get to say in my memory a lot, because that gets me out of things. This is how I remember it. I wasn't the one that put them in, because in my memory, my sister gets in big trouble because the lamp is on, the lamp has been turned on, and at some point we smell something burning, and the cotton balls have been up against the lamp, and they're like, smoking, no fire, no this. This doesn't end poorly, by the way. Just spoiler alert, if every anybody was worried but my mom, I think, is going crazy. What smelling my memory, though, is being in that room. I can still picture the lamp, and I can picture like my mom running and turning it off immediately and just giving my sister absolute hell for what have you done? This is a terrible thing, also at the same time. This is the bed my twin bed was like up against the wall. This is the bed that I have memories of taking my Donny Osmond album and kissing Good night at night. So I've always said I was about three, so I think that must be about it.
Kristin Nilsen 57:13
So there's one question that we've been waiting for, but has not come much to our surprise. You may have noticed in the last few months that we now have advertisements running in our episodes, and this was something we were really nervous about, because our longtime listeners have enjoyed years of ad free episodes, and we kept waiting for the questions, we kept waiting for people to ask or express displeasure or something, and they never came, which is, I guess that's a good sign, right? Perhaps this is something that people are used to, and it doesn't represent anything more than some products to think about and and maybe buy. But what we really want people to know is that that decision wasn't made lightly, and we take those testimonials very seriously. I mean, we are three very earnest people, I think you know by now, right? So we speak truthfully in those ads about products that we have tried and liked and feel good about endorsing, and we see those products kind of as the sponsors of our episodes, like today's episode was brought to you by this sponsor. This is how we're able to keep this show on the air. But the other thing we worried about was how that would make our Patreon members feel. So if this episode is brought to you by this product, what is the role of the individual listeners who support us with their donations each month? And the answer is exactly the same as it was before. The truth is that our Patreon supporters are our primary means of support. This is what pays the bills and keeps the lights on. Their monetary contributions are what have allowed us to stay on the air for four years. The advertisements are just another layer of nominal income, really, that are helping us stay afloat. Because what we've learned is that making money from a podcast is really hard, and they're non existent, right? There are only a couple, a handful of smartnesses out there, or call her daddy, or whatever. That's just, you know, few and far between, and the rest of us have to find myriad ways to cobble together a sustainable existence. So to be perfectly transparent, it would be nice to be able to make a living from this podcast, to be fairly compensated for the work that it takes to write and direct and produce this weekly adventure that we go on. But given the current climate where there are so many podcasts, I'm not sure that's possible, but we are giving it a go. We're doing our best, and we still need you. I mean, think about it, without people who donate, there would be no PBS, there would be no Sesame Street, there would be no Bob Ross so, so we are exceedingly grateful to all of you who donate, and the more we grow that base of support, the longer we can keep doing this.
Carolyn Cochrane 59:59
Yes. Like 100% I just wanted to share with you guys, if you ever do listen totally through a podcast episode, like a smart list, or some of the bigger names you will hear at the end this kind of laundry list of people that are a part of putting that podcast on you'll you'll hear was written by so and so, not one of the hosts. It was edited by so and so, not one of the hosts It was produced and recorded. Blah, blah, blah. I mean, there can be up to like, eight or nine people that they list at the end of their episodes, like the credits, these three voices that you guys hear. This is it? This? These are your editors. These are your producers. These are everything. So we don't have a huge, yeah, like employee list or anything like that. It is our heart and soul, really a full time job, and we love doing it. The three
Michelle Newman 1:00:51
of us since day one have done 100% of it, of the writing, the recording, the producing, the marketing, the social media, the everything. And four years in, we still don't make any money, even with our Patreon supporters, who we we thank every episode, because they pay the bills. Thankfully, we could not be more grateful, because the first year, we paid our own bills, before we had a Patreon, and after that first year, we realized, I don't think we can keep this going. So we are so, so grateful to our Patreon supporters for paying the bills. We say it, they keep us they keep the lights on, they keep us truck. And they absolutely do. We're still just so grateful to all of it and and still just looking for new ways to, yeah, maybe able to buy a pair of shoes,
Kristin Nilsen 1:01:43
right? And also know that when we decide, we get to choose what we advertise, that is completely in our power, and when we're making that decision, we are thinking of you, the listener. What we're thinking is, would they? Would they enjoy this product? Is this something that they need in their lives. We're never gonna pitch something that is of no use to you, because we're all in this together. We feel like we know you pretty well. We're all of the same age group, so we know what symptoms you're having. So we all just know that when we're making those decisions, we're doing it with you in mind, body. So
Speaker 2 1:02:22
next
Carolyn Cochrane 1:02:29
Monday, listeners, we are going to start our encore season, but with all new opening conversations, okay? And I am super excited about those recordings, because it never fails that after we record an episode, we undoubtedly learn new things about that topic. Either we read something or, most likely, you all share something with us that we had no idea about before. And it is so fun to revisit these episodes and share these new insights. So even if you've already listened to the episode, you really want to make sure and listen again, you're going to learn something new, we promise. So our encore season will take us through the end of this year, but lucky you, we are going to record two new episodes, one with your Gen X holiday memories, and then a 2024 wrap up that will air on the last Monday of the
Michelle Newman 1:03:19
year. And then bam, just like that. It's going to be 2025 that sounds so futuristic. Oh my gosh. And in 2025 early 2025 it'll be time to start season 14, with a whole new season of all new topics, which we will be busy recording for you very soon, and we have some fun ones planned so
Kristin Nilsen 1:03:44
and we dropped some hints for you in this episode too. You gotta be coming your way. And that is a wrap, everybody for our 2024 season 13 town hall with the hosts of the pop culture Preservation Society. I hope you've enjoyed being in our brains for the last hour, and that you feel like you know us a little bit better, and please know that this is a two way street. We love whispering in your ears every week, and we love it when you reach out to us. We've gotten to know you too. You are a part of this podcast just by virtue of showing up and sharing us with your like minded friends. There are so many of us out there who all loved and enjoyed this time in history. We are the mighty Generation X, and we are so grateful to have you. Thanks for listening, and we will see you next time.
Carolyn Cochrane 1:04:29
Yes, we are so grateful to have each and every one of you we love our Patreon supporters, who we thank at the end of many of our episodes, and we also want to thank some of our generous supporters who donate to the PCPs through PayPal. Not sure if you all knew, but you can do a one time donation or even recurring donations through our PayPal link, which you can find on our website in the show notes and our Instagram link tree and some of those supporters I want to personally thank right now I want to thank Cynthia. And Angel and Karen and Lauren. You all truly do help keep the lights on. Yeah. Another super helpful way that you can support us is by leaving a review on whatever podcast platform you use. We're on Apple and Spotify and Amazon music, and they all have places for you to rate and review. That's a great way to help us as is, when you may see, I want to transition this, that's a great way to support us as is, when you share the podcast with friends and family and tell them how great we are,
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flattering for us
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and we really, really appreciate that. Thank you we do.
Kristin Nilsen 1:05:44
In the meantime, let's raise our glasses for a toast courtesy of the cast of Jack and Janet and crack and thank you Chrissy and Jack and Larry and that lady with the long hair. Mrs. Roper. Mr. Roper, I can't remember. I want to call her Janice, but it's not Janice. She always hung out at the Regal Beagle anyway. They
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came in after Chrissy left.
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Oh, we don't care about them.
Michelle Newman 1:06:13
She doesn't count each other, right?
Carolyn Cochrane 1:06:14
Cousin Olivers,
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to all the cousin Olivers, thanks to them. Let us. Let us raise our glasses. Two good times,
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two Happy Days, Two Little
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House on the Prairie. The
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information,
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